10-12-2008, 05:54 PM
Fly Goddess wrote: Absolutely, but if you think about it, you are basically roll casting the line back upstream. Peel line out, shake the tip of your rod and let it drift, or stand in the middle of the creek, cast up stream, let it drift back to you and flick (roll cast) it back up stream.
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I do not think of it as roll casting though part of the mechanics is similar. For the biginner watching a video clip about a roll cast she/he will not relate to what I am attempting to describe.
The traditional way one talks about and demonstrates roll casting is that you bring the rod back over your shoulder with the tip high in the air behind you. thus part of the line and the rod tip are behind you. The rest of the line is still on the water in front of you with this part of the line moving towards you. Then you bring the rod forward such that you get a loop rolling out in front of you. It is your movement of your fly line that gets the line to move on the water and create the wake.
What I was trying to describe is letting the fly drift down stream while you are facing across the stream. You let your drift continue past you. You lower your rod tip towards the water to extend the drift. Then when the slack comes out your fly moves across the seams so that it is directly down stream from you and the swift current raises the fly to the top of the water creating the wake on the fly and the water. Once You have more or less a straight line from through the rod, down along the line to your fly then you flip the rod tip forward. Then similar to a roll cast the water drag on the line and fly load the rod. However the line is not forming a loop anywhere.
I have not seen any video ever showing this kind of cast. That is probably because it is not a graceful cast to see. It is not a graceful cast to feel either. But it is effective at getting the line back upstream without wearing your arm out and a beginner can start using it right away. It also works when
You can be facing up stream and do the same thing but you have to twist your body part way around to perform the manuever.
A roll cast you can do on still water. The cast I am describing you can not do on still water unless you cast the line out behind you. Let it settle on the water.Then before the line sinks start bringing your rod tip to keep all the line on top of the water and then finish a regular forward cast.
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I do not think of it as roll casting though part of the mechanics is similar. For the biginner watching a video clip about a roll cast she/he will not relate to what I am attempting to describe.
The traditional way one talks about and demonstrates roll casting is that you bring the rod back over your shoulder with the tip high in the air behind you. thus part of the line and the rod tip are behind you. The rest of the line is still on the water in front of you with this part of the line moving towards you. Then you bring the rod forward such that you get a loop rolling out in front of you. It is your movement of your fly line that gets the line to move on the water and create the wake.
What I was trying to describe is letting the fly drift down stream while you are facing across the stream. You let your drift continue past you. You lower your rod tip towards the water to extend the drift. Then when the slack comes out your fly moves across the seams so that it is directly down stream from you and the swift current raises the fly to the top of the water creating the wake on the fly and the water. Once You have more or less a straight line from through the rod, down along the line to your fly then you flip the rod tip forward. Then similar to a roll cast the water drag on the line and fly load the rod. However the line is not forming a loop anywhere.
I have not seen any video ever showing this kind of cast. That is probably because it is not a graceful cast to see. It is not a graceful cast to feel either. But it is effective at getting the line back upstream without wearing your arm out and a beginner can start using it right away. It also works when
You can be facing up stream and do the same thing but you have to twist your body part way around to perform the manuever.
A roll cast you can do on still water. The cast I am describing you can not do on still water unless you cast the line out behind you. Let it settle on the water.Then before the line sinks start bringing your rod tip to keep all the line on top of the water and then finish a regular forward cast.
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