06-26-2010, 03:01 AM
Maybe I'm dumb but I don't get these setups on our relatively small streams in Utah. I tie a fly on and fish. If it takes more than a few minutes to tie this I'm already catching fish the majority of the time your still tying it. How do you adjust these set ups to fish the variety of conditions you need to cover on our small waters outside the Green. Do you only fish a few large relatively constant depth areas over and over, missing out on most of the fish most days? Do you spend time and adjust the setup over and over? Or do you just fish with this even though it's not really suitable for much of the areas that may hold fish on a given day. How accurate are you casting with this with all that weight and flies going in different directions. Can you get it within an inch or 2 of the spot you want 90+% of the time or do you just settle for crappy casting or fish areas where accuracy isn't important. Have you compared how many fish and how much fun you have fishing with this directly to simple fly fishing where your fly should be almost constantly in action covering a wide variety of areas that could be holding fish. Are you comfortable with all that on the end of your line doing snake rolls on either side of you when trees and brush around you make that the best casting technique? How often does your line get tangled.Why do you lose flies to begin with? Mine almost always wear out.
Don't get me wrong sometimes if I have a 1000+ cfs river I do find a second fly and maybe some additional weight will improve the catch rate. But even then I experiment as it's certainly not a given as all these setups affect the way the flies drift.
Fishinguru this isn't directed at you only, so others please feel free to chime in and enlighten my stubborn ignorance on this subject.
I think you're describing a surgeon's knot for tippet to leader. When fishing one nymph I don't use tippet as tying it on only serves as a weak spot. I could be wrong but I think the surgeon knot is something like 70% as strong as the tippet when tied correctly. If you use a 5X tippet you'll be about the strength of a 7X leader. Almost all terminal fly knots are much stronger than that ( 85-100% strength).
[signature]
Don't get me wrong sometimes if I have a 1000+ cfs river I do find a second fly and maybe some additional weight will improve the catch rate. But even then I experiment as it's certainly not a given as all these setups affect the way the flies drift.
Fishinguru this isn't directed at you only, so others please feel free to chime in and enlighten my stubborn ignorance on this subject.
I think you're describing a surgeon's knot for tippet to leader. When fishing one nymph I don't use tippet as tying it on only serves as a weak spot. I could be wrong but I think the surgeon knot is something like 70% as strong as the tippet when tied correctly. If you use a 5X tippet you'll be about the strength of a 7X leader. Almost all terminal fly knots are much stronger than that ( 85-100% strength).
[signature]