03-02-2011, 04:48 PM
The cimmaron/arrow backpacker uses very thin tubing which takes extreme skill to weld and can not be done reliably by mass production. You get burn through on the joints and they will be weak. Large number of reviews on frame collapse for this reason. I would have someone reweld the stress postion welds for safety.
Assembly and tear down is time consuming on these boats with many parts, and the toons and bladders are extremely thin. There is reviews on this in the archives. They are designed for back packing and very light weight cargo carrying, so if you can keep it under 180# or so TOTAL weight, might be OK, ie, no troll motors. Pvc coating will increase the rust problem due to trapped moisture.
Sorry but that is what I have read and experience from a couple of friends...
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dquote SanDiegoBassin]Thank you very much for shooting me straight! Your photos are what inspired me to go out in the garage and build something.
So I got the Cimarron used for 50$ on the side of the road not knowing anything about it but I did inspect it. It had some stains and a little bit of rust on one of the bars but I sanded and re-painted the rusty spots.
Ive only used it twice, I bought it specifically for Barrett lake here in San Diego co. I will only be taking it out 3-5 times a month which is lite use to me. Im hoping after reading the horror stories I will be ok.
Im thinking maybe I could wrap the metal frame in 3/4" pvc the help keep the weather and water out? Anyone try this before?
Thanks for all the input everybody it is extremely helpful!
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I added these pins for easy on and off the toon, weight distribution is a factor as seen in the photo by Flygoddess. So I extended the pvc frame to go under the seat in an attempt to move the weight forward. If I get off early enough today im going to give it a try, without tackle and gear ofcourse.
Sorry about the pics im not sure how this site uploads yet, I just copied and paste from photobook its very easy. no resizing and no downloading but My pics did not come up.
Im going to paint it and dial it in throughout the month in anticipation for opening da at Barrett[/quote]
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Assembly and tear down is time consuming on these boats with many parts, and the toons and bladders are extremely thin. There is reviews on this in the archives. They are designed for back packing and very light weight cargo carrying, so if you can keep it under 180# or so TOTAL weight, might be OK, ie, no troll motors. Pvc coating will increase the rust problem due to trapped moisture.
Sorry but that is what I have read and experience from a couple of friends...
Pon
dquote SanDiegoBassin]Thank you very much for shooting me straight! Your photos are what inspired me to go out in the garage and build something.
So I got the Cimarron used for 50$ on the side of the road not knowing anything about it but I did inspect it. It had some stains and a little bit of rust on one of the bars but I sanded and re-painted the rusty spots.
Ive only used it twice, I bought it specifically for Barrett lake here in San Diego co. I will only be taking it out 3-5 times a month which is lite use to me. Im hoping after reading the horror stories I will be ok.
Im thinking maybe I could wrap the metal frame in 3/4" pvc the help keep the weather and water out? Anyone try this before?
Thanks for all the input everybody it is extremely helpful!
[url "http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx3/ulricbella/IMG_20110302_080602.jpg"][/url]http://i736.photobucket.com/..._20110302_080602.jpg[/url]
[url "http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx3/ulricbella/IMG_20110302_080634.jpg"][/url]http://i736.photobucket.com/..._20110302_080634.jpg[/url]
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I added these pins for easy on and off the toon, weight distribution is a factor as seen in the photo by Flygoddess. So I extended the pvc frame to go under the seat in an attempt to move the weight forward. If I get off early enough today im going to give it a try, without tackle and gear ofcourse.
Sorry about the pics im not sure how this site uploads yet, I just copied and paste from photobook its very easy. no resizing and no downloading but My pics did not come up.
Im going to paint it and dial it in throughout the month in anticipation for opening da at Barrett[/quote]
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