06-11-2011, 08:48 PM
[quote WaveWolf][#804000]I know the knolls is bad, but American Fork boat harbor ain't much better and it is a pay to play site.[/#804000]
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[#804000]I just wish littering would carry the same weight as a fish and game violation, including suspension of a license.[/#804000][/quote]
[cool][#0000ff]I did not mean to imply that merely paying for the privilege of access automatically turned off the litter function on idiots. In fact, it sometimes seems to activate it. Some folks believe that if they are paying for the privilege of using facilities that they are entitled to leave their trash. After all, isn't that what they are paying somebody for?[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I do take a slight exception to your idea of imposing a punishment that includes suspension of fishing privileges. That would not be a deterrent to many of the worst trashaholics. A lot of them don't bother to buy licenses.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Talked to a sheriff who was "checking in" on the Knolls one time. I asked what could be done to help reduce the trash or keep out the folks who were the worst offenders. He said that unless they wait around to actually observe someone leaving behind something they brought in there was little they could do..."on suspicion". He also said that issuing citations did little good because the offenders seldom appeared in court or even responded to the summons at all...and frequently had false identifications with non-existent addresses. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Their only recourse is to haul them into jail...which is a lousy way to spend a shift and accomplishes nothing in the long run. Lots more important items on an average day's agenda...like drownings, assaults, drugs, drive-bys, etc.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]In a privately owned and (reasonably) well operated facility like AFBH they still don't have the time or personnel to watch over the hordes of happy trashers who descend on their place on a busy day. All they can do is try to clean up the mess after everybody goes home...minus their trash.[/#0000ff]
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[#804000]I just wish littering would carry the same weight as a fish and game violation, including suspension of a license.[/#804000][/quote]
[cool][#0000ff]I did not mean to imply that merely paying for the privilege of access automatically turned off the litter function on idiots. In fact, it sometimes seems to activate it. Some folks believe that if they are paying for the privilege of using facilities that they are entitled to leave their trash. After all, isn't that what they are paying somebody for?[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I do take a slight exception to your idea of imposing a punishment that includes suspension of fishing privileges. That would not be a deterrent to many of the worst trashaholics. A lot of them don't bother to buy licenses.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Talked to a sheriff who was "checking in" on the Knolls one time. I asked what could be done to help reduce the trash or keep out the folks who were the worst offenders. He said that unless they wait around to actually observe someone leaving behind something they brought in there was little they could do..."on suspicion". He also said that issuing citations did little good because the offenders seldom appeared in court or even responded to the summons at all...and frequently had false identifications with non-existent addresses. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Their only recourse is to haul them into jail...which is a lousy way to spend a shift and accomplishes nothing in the long run. Lots more important items on an average day's agenda...like drownings, assaults, drugs, drive-bys, etc.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]In a privately owned and (reasonably) well operated facility like AFBH they still don't have the time or personnel to watch over the hordes of happy trashers who descend on their place on a busy day. All they can do is try to clean up the mess after everybody goes home...minus their trash.[/#0000ff]
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