04-27-2012, 06:13 PM
By mentioning the Renegade, the Rampage, the Assault, the XX or any of the frameless models and even the X5 you are really talking apples and oranges from the sounds of it.
For the USA made boats you would be looking at same specs
In the 9' range Southfork, PAC 9000 and Renegade. (However, Outcast has told me that any of their pontoons 1100 and smaller are made overseas)
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1 TUBES - 20" tubes or better ( AIRE, Hyside, Jack's Plastic, Maravia, NRS and SOTAR ) bladderless type .
2. FRAME - with a whitewater class frame ( heavy duty 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 IPS Aluminum or DOM steel )
3. OARS - whitewater class oars NOT CHEAP THIN ALUMINUM PINNED TOGETHER should have a spare.
This is what you prefer and that is a great list, but I am assuming it had to be pieced together as well.
Maybe you should look at the other line of NFO that is more equal to this like the Professional Guide. More apples to apples.
For one To try and compare your list to a Renegade is truly not a fair comparison. I would be talking Smart car to Chev truck. Both good at what they do however.
I have had this conversation many times and do watch the videos. Great suggestion. Also frequent forums that do specialize in white water. NFO is changing a few minds.
The U shaped toon is ultimate in stability in my mind over two individual toons.
I hope we are not hi jacking the post and rather offering some insight and useful info.
I would take any of the NFO boats down the South Fork or the North Fork depending on MY skills and feel assured the boats would make it a spectacular ride.
Most of my Tooning is stillwater and I prefer a boat that I feel safe on with four foot waves. Which also means after market Longer oars. I would also feel comfortable on most rivers that I frequent to fish.
Now, if I am looking to ride the rapids, then yes, I too would look at a boat made for that and again there are some NFO's that also fit that bill.
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For the USA made boats you would be looking at same specs
In the 9' range Southfork, PAC 9000 and Renegade. (However, Outcast has told me that any of their pontoons 1100 and smaller are made overseas)
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1 TUBES - 20" tubes or better ( AIRE, Hyside, Jack's Plastic, Maravia, NRS and SOTAR ) bladderless type .
2. FRAME - with a whitewater class frame ( heavy duty 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 IPS Aluminum or DOM steel )
3. OARS - whitewater class oars NOT CHEAP THIN ALUMINUM PINNED TOGETHER should have a spare.
This is what you prefer and that is a great list, but I am assuming it had to be pieced together as well.
Maybe you should look at the other line of NFO that is more equal to this like the Professional Guide. More apples to apples.
For one To try and compare your list to a Renegade is truly not a fair comparison. I would be talking Smart car to Chev truck. Both good at what they do however.
I have had this conversation many times and do watch the videos. Great suggestion. Also frequent forums that do specialize in white water. NFO is changing a few minds.
The U shaped toon is ultimate in stability in my mind over two individual toons.
I hope we are not hi jacking the post and rather offering some insight and useful info.
I would take any of the NFO boats down the South Fork or the North Fork depending on MY skills and feel assured the boats would make it a spectacular ride.
Most of my Tooning is stillwater and I prefer a boat that I feel safe on with four foot waves. Which also means after market Longer oars. I would also feel comfortable on most rivers that I frequent to fish.
Now, if I am looking to ride the rapids, then yes, I too would look at a boat made for that and again there are some NFO's that also fit that bill.
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