07-11-2012, 05:28 PM
[cool][#0000ff]Sorry for the harsh reply. It was meant to splatter some of the other dimbulb posts as well.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]It is apparent from your reply that a large part of your feelings and actions are based upon a reluctance to harm or kill any creature. That's not a bad thing. But when it comes to the issue of carp in Utah Lake, they really don't need any tender love and care. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You also express the notion that folks are promoting complete eradication of carp. No sane and knowledgeable person would ever believe that was remotely possible. To the best of my knowledge, there has never been any water of any size that has ever been completely cleaned of carp. And even the small lakes that are poisoned...or drained and refilled...usually end up with carp again. And it is not always from someone replanting them. As you have pointed out, there are so many tributaries and marshes around the lake that it would be virtually impossible to kill off all the adults, fry and eggs of every last carp. It only takes two survivors...male and female...to start it all over again.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]As has been mentioned, the goal is to reduce the numbers of carp to the point that they are held in check by natural predation from the fish-eating species. They have a goal in mind but whether or not they can reach it...or if it will work...remains to be seen. I think it is overly optimistic.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]The June Sucker program has very little to do with anglers. Very few are actually caught each year. The two major problems are lack of habitat for young June suckers...because the carp root out all the greenery...and the toll taken on the babies by the walleyes, bass, catfish and other predators. The white bass are probably worse than all the rest combined and they cannot be eradicated either...even with no limits.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]It is apparent from your reply that a large part of your feelings and actions are based upon a reluctance to harm or kill any creature. That's not a bad thing. But when it comes to the issue of carp in Utah Lake, they really don't need any tender love and care. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You also express the notion that folks are promoting complete eradication of carp. No sane and knowledgeable person would ever believe that was remotely possible. To the best of my knowledge, there has never been any water of any size that has ever been completely cleaned of carp. And even the small lakes that are poisoned...or drained and refilled...usually end up with carp again. And it is not always from someone replanting them. As you have pointed out, there are so many tributaries and marshes around the lake that it would be virtually impossible to kill off all the adults, fry and eggs of every last carp. It only takes two survivors...male and female...to start it all over again.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]As has been mentioned, the goal is to reduce the numbers of carp to the point that they are held in check by natural predation from the fish-eating species. They have a goal in mind but whether or not they can reach it...or if it will work...remains to be seen. I think it is overly optimistic.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]The June Sucker program has very little to do with anglers. Very few are actually caught each year. The two major problems are lack of habitat for young June suckers...because the carp root out all the greenery...and the toll taken on the babies by the walleyes, bass, catfish and other predators. The white bass are probably worse than all the rest combined and they cannot be eradicated either...even with no limits.[/#0000ff]
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