01-22-2013, 11:39 PM
[quote PBH][quote DKStroutfitter]
For a big bath tub, Willard does OK on it's own...[/quote]
Most "warm water" fisheries in Utah do [ok on their own]. Which is EXACTLY why the need for supplement stocking of many of these fish (LMB, SMB, walleye, perch, pike, bluegill, etc.) is unnecessary. This doesn't mean (as red leaf and bassrodder seem to forget) that the UDWR doesn't "manage" those fisheries.[/quote]
[quote PBH][The question I asked was in regards to Red Leaker, who complained about Utah's managment of species that are "left to mother nature" -- a reference more directed to LMB, SMB, walleye, perch, etc. Not wipers.
While Willard may very well have the gizzard shad population to support the predators in that water -- does Willard need supplemental stocking of LMB? I highly doubt it.[/quote]
First, I am not "complaining" just making a comment/observation from the available stocking information. If fish are transferred from one water to another are they not included in the stocking report? If they are not then maybe they should be so that people are educated and aware.
Second, I didn't read anywhere that bassrods or myself inferred that the UDWR doesn't manage our "warm water" fisheries. Obviously if referring to their stocking reports, I am fully aware of their management.
Third, I have yet to hear of or see LMB come out of Willard and I have put many hours on that lake; if they are in there the population could use help. I have however caught many SMB bass out of there.
Fourth, as to the question of what "bass" lakes need help with stocking, it is my opinion that both Deer Creek and Jordanelle could use bolstering in LMB. Whereas the SMB are overpopulated and mostly (not all) stunted (again my opinion) in Deer Creek, the population in Jordanelle is awesome and (again my opinion) world class. Jordanelle SMB are an example of DWR success in managing a water. Correct me if I am wrong but I beleive that the SMB that were stocked into Jordanelle were for lack of a better term, a coldwater "strain". Would putting this strain into Strawberry be a crazy thought? Yes, I know there are some already in there more than likely from the bozos. I also have thoughts on walleye being more available to anglers in certain waters.
Lastly, let me be clear here. I am in no way bashing the DWR nor trout fisherman. I am however offering views and thoughts for discussion; some I agree with and some I don't but I will argue anyway; hopefully opening up minds and educating both myself and others.
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For a big bath tub, Willard does OK on it's own...[/quote]
Most "warm water" fisheries in Utah do [ok on their own]. Which is EXACTLY why the need for supplement stocking of many of these fish (LMB, SMB, walleye, perch, pike, bluegill, etc.) is unnecessary. This doesn't mean (as red leaf and bassrodder seem to forget) that the UDWR doesn't "manage" those fisheries.[/quote]
[quote PBH][The question I asked was in regards to Red Leaker, who complained about Utah's managment of species that are "left to mother nature" -- a reference more directed to LMB, SMB, walleye, perch, etc. Not wipers.
While Willard may very well have the gizzard shad population to support the predators in that water -- does Willard need supplemental stocking of LMB? I highly doubt it.[/quote]
First, I am not "complaining" just making a comment/observation from the available stocking information. If fish are transferred from one water to another are they not included in the stocking report? If they are not then maybe they should be so that people are educated and aware.
Second, I didn't read anywhere that bassrods or myself inferred that the UDWR doesn't manage our "warm water" fisheries. Obviously if referring to their stocking reports, I am fully aware of their management.
Third, I have yet to hear of or see LMB come out of Willard and I have put many hours on that lake; if they are in there the population could use help. I have however caught many SMB bass out of there.
Fourth, as to the question of what "bass" lakes need help with stocking, it is my opinion that both Deer Creek and Jordanelle could use bolstering in LMB. Whereas the SMB are overpopulated and mostly (not all) stunted (again my opinion) in Deer Creek, the population in Jordanelle is awesome and (again my opinion) world class. Jordanelle SMB are an example of DWR success in managing a water. Correct me if I am wrong but I beleive that the SMB that were stocked into Jordanelle were for lack of a better term, a coldwater "strain". Would putting this strain into Strawberry be a crazy thought? Yes, I know there are some already in there more than likely from the bozos. I also have thoughts on walleye being more available to anglers in certain waters.
Lastly, let me be clear here. I am in no way bashing the DWR nor trout fisherman. I am however offering views and thoughts for discussion; some I agree with and some I don't but I will argue anyway; hopefully opening up minds and educating both myself and others.
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