04-26-2013, 10:02 PM
RE" I don't understand why you guys are trying for doubles. Swing for the freakin' fence and hit a home-run!
KAMLOOPS RAINBOWS!!!! "
Yeah, and put them in Minersville first.
A couple more points.
RE"I don't want the same fate to befall the Pilot Lahontan."
You do realize that they are now where they belong, back in Pyramid lake. Unless the tribe that owns PL suffers collective insanity, they will continue to be stocked and be very safe there. NDOW has used other strains of Lahontans in other areas they have restored, as it should be. There is also a large hatchery stock of the Pyramid lake fish present too. They are in no danger.
RE"The problem here is that, from what I have read is that this "historic" fish was what was found in Utah Lake. There are reports of those Cutts going over 40 pounds!! Problem is, they have been eliminated entirely. They may have been that special subspecies of Bonneville that gets that big, but now are gone forever. "
That is what was said of the Pyramid lake fish too. How do we know that certain BL cutts near UL or even not wouldn't perform similarly well when put into a situation where they could succeed?
Along the same lines;
RE"The Bonneville found everywhere else in the state don't even come close to this potential (at least not on a regular basis). "
When have they really been given the chance? You restore them to headwater streams, as has been done, and you'll get small fish, regardless of strain. Put them in a prey rich lake like Pyramid with ideal conditions (and special regs so they don't get caught out) and who knows........
10,000 years is just a moment evolutionarily speaking.
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KAMLOOPS RAINBOWS!!!! "
Yeah, and put them in Minersville first.
A couple more points.
RE"I don't want the same fate to befall the Pilot Lahontan."
You do realize that they are now where they belong, back in Pyramid lake. Unless the tribe that owns PL suffers collective insanity, they will continue to be stocked and be very safe there. NDOW has used other strains of Lahontans in other areas they have restored, as it should be. There is also a large hatchery stock of the Pyramid lake fish present too. They are in no danger.
RE"The problem here is that, from what I have read is that this "historic" fish was what was found in Utah Lake. There are reports of those Cutts going over 40 pounds!! Problem is, they have been eliminated entirely. They may have been that special subspecies of Bonneville that gets that big, but now are gone forever. "
That is what was said of the Pyramid lake fish too. How do we know that certain BL cutts near UL or even not wouldn't perform similarly well when put into a situation where they could succeed?
Along the same lines;
RE"The Bonneville found everywhere else in the state don't even come close to this potential (at least not on a regular basis). "
When have they really been given the chance? You restore them to headwater streams, as has been done, and you'll get small fish, regardless of strain. Put them in a prey rich lake like Pyramid with ideal conditions (and special regs so they don't get caught out) and who knows........
10,000 years is just a moment evolutionarily speaking.
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