11-22-2003, 07:01 AM
You mention (in a seemingly complaining manner) about all the animals that have been showing up in populated areas, but you fail to mention some possible reasons. Reasons like the dry conditions drive them down from the higher regions and that expanding urban areas (expanding because of the great influx of refugees from other places like Texas) has taken space from the animals. The dry conditions can be fixed. We only need some good, hard winters with lots of snow, which you also seem to be complaining about. Now how can we fix the ridiculous influx of people -- some who strangely continue to complain about this state after they apparently chose to come here. How can we........?
I'm not quite sure why you said Antero was drained. You mentioned it right after talking about draining reservoirs with the "excuse" to fix dams. If you were tying the draining of Antero to that, I believe you're wrong. Antero was drained, as it has been several times over the years because it doesn't store water well. It is shallow with a large surface area. This causes loss of tremendous amounts of water through evaporation. The water was released from Antero for storage in downstream reservoirs whose surface area to depth ratio better prevented evaporation loss. Pretty smart during periods of sparse water and summer heat, it seems to me.
You were, last year, crying about lack of water. Now you're crying about the possibility of a snowy winter. We, in Colorado, really can't have plenty of water without a snowy winter. Didn't you check and find out Denver's annual precipitation is around 12 inches before you moved here from that garden spot -- Texas!! We (and other parts of Colorado) get our water from the snow that gets packed up in the hills like Pikes Peak and the mountains Trail Ridge is cut through. Maybe you ought to think about moving to a downstream state where you could enjoy the water from our hard winters without having winter yourself. Someplace like Texas!!
It sounded like you were saying the closing of Trail Ridge because of snow and ice is unheard of. Did you mean to say unheard of being so early (which I'm not sure is the case). Trail Ridge is closed every year because of snow and ice and stays closed throughout the winter!! The annual spring snowplow clearing of Trail Ridge and opening of the road is a small annual celebration to real Coloradans!!
Besides, I'm not too sure our winter is yet too early, too cold, and too snowy. I was wade-fishing Clear Creek a week ago in my shirt sleeves and biked in shorts yesterday and the day before. Skiing on Thanksgiving has always been a little iffy, but I've skied close to several Thanksgivings when I didn't have to use my rock skis. Thanksgiving is next Thursday, and from the current reports of mid-mountain bases (I didn't get any e-mail reports the last two days from Vail Associates and they send one every time any of their areas gets an inch or more). Unless things change dramatically, I'm planning on using my rock skis through mid-December. I did some pruning on my apricot yesterday and many of the small branches are still green!! I'm hoping it starts to snow like hell so I can enjoy some real deep stuff during my week at Vail the end of January and so my stream fishing will be even better next year than it was this year.
During the second week of October, my daughter and I fished three days in Central Wyoming -- again in shirt sleeves from as early as 0800 hrs.!! I hesitate to state, as some others seem to do easily, that something is unheard of, but I'm sure it's at least a little unusual.
By the way -- how did you vote on the recent question of funding for water projects in this state?
You started out by saying this may be the wrong place for your dissertation(s). I totally agree. You really should find a BBS on politics and leave this one clean for what I thought it was meant for. At least go to the section "Not Necessarily Fishing" so those of us who want to, can avoid at least some of your crying and moaning.
In addition to having enough water in the event we have a good, hard winter with lots of snow, Once we do get a good covering of the white stuff, we'll be able to see where johnincolorado has been. We only need to look for the yellow stains he left as he continued to p--- on our state.
I should apologize for my nastiness, but all this bitching about Colorado for over a year now, from a person who apparently chose to move here, really makes this third generation Coloradan boil!!!
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I'm not quite sure why you said Antero was drained. You mentioned it right after talking about draining reservoirs with the "excuse" to fix dams. If you were tying the draining of Antero to that, I believe you're wrong. Antero was drained, as it has been several times over the years because it doesn't store water well. It is shallow with a large surface area. This causes loss of tremendous amounts of water through evaporation. The water was released from Antero for storage in downstream reservoirs whose surface area to depth ratio better prevented evaporation loss. Pretty smart during periods of sparse water and summer heat, it seems to me.
You were, last year, crying about lack of water. Now you're crying about the possibility of a snowy winter. We, in Colorado, really can't have plenty of water without a snowy winter. Didn't you check and find out Denver's annual precipitation is around 12 inches before you moved here from that garden spot -- Texas!! We (and other parts of Colorado) get our water from the snow that gets packed up in the hills like Pikes Peak and the mountains Trail Ridge is cut through. Maybe you ought to think about moving to a downstream state where you could enjoy the water from our hard winters without having winter yourself. Someplace like Texas!!
It sounded like you were saying the closing of Trail Ridge because of snow and ice is unheard of. Did you mean to say unheard of being so early (which I'm not sure is the case). Trail Ridge is closed every year because of snow and ice and stays closed throughout the winter!! The annual spring snowplow clearing of Trail Ridge and opening of the road is a small annual celebration to real Coloradans!!
Besides, I'm not too sure our winter is yet too early, too cold, and too snowy. I was wade-fishing Clear Creek a week ago in my shirt sleeves and biked in shorts yesterday and the day before. Skiing on Thanksgiving has always been a little iffy, but I've skied close to several Thanksgivings when I didn't have to use my rock skis. Thanksgiving is next Thursday, and from the current reports of mid-mountain bases (I didn't get any e-mail reports the last two days from Vail Associates and they send one every time any of their areas gets an inch or more). Unless things change dramatically, I'm planning on using my rock skis through mid-December. I did some pruning on my apricot yesterday and many of the small branches are still green!! I'm hoping it starts to snow like hell so I can enjoy some real deep stuff during my week at Vail the end of January and so my stream fishing will be even better next year than it was this year.
During the second week of October, my daughter and I fished three days in Central Wyoming -- again in shirt sleeves from as early as 0800 hrs.!! I hesitate to state, as some others seem to do easily, that something is unheard of, but I'm sure it's at least a little unusual.
By the way -- how did you vote on the recent question of funding for water projects in this state?
You started out by saying this may be the wrong place for your dissertation(s). I totally agree. You really should find a BBS on politics and leave this one clean for what I thought it was meant for. At least go to the section "Not Necessarily Fishing" so those of us who want to, can avoid at least some of your crying and moaning.
In addition to having enough water in the event we have a good, hard winter with lots of snow, Once we do get a good covering of the white stuff, we'll be able to see where johnincolorado has been. We only need to look for the yellow stains he left as he continued to p--- on our state.
I should apologize for my nastiness, but all this bitching about Colorado for over a year now, from a person who apparently chose to move here, really makes this third generation Coloradan boil!!!
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