09-09-2014, 02:29 PM
[quote FishMcFisherson]Well thank you. I feel much better now that a condescending know it all can tell me what my concerns are. [/quote]
you are very welcome. I'm glad to be able to help out.
[quote FishMcFisherson]
If the dwr was so perfect, there wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
As quoted before, my concern is over harvesting of large fish. Are you going to tell me that if this plan doesn't work that the dwr is going to plant 20 lb catfish in Utah Lake? Because they aren't.[/quote]
I don't ever recall the DWR, or anyone else, saying they are perfect. Far from it. Especially when you have the public that thinks they should be involved in management -- that's where the issues come into play. Just read this very thread -- you have anglers that think you need to protect ever big fish in our waters, which very often has opposite effects from what the anglers desires are. It's called a lack of understanding.
You are correct, the DWR would not stock 20lb catfish.
I want to know who's catching these 20lb catfish today? Why are we not seeing pictures posted all over the interwebs with this plethora of giant catfish?!
Further, since we already know all about the magic of population density and growth rates, if a plethora of 20lb catfish were being removed from Utah Lake, wouldn't that mean that catfish were in that zone of maximum growth rates? And when fish are in that zone, this means you end up with BIG fish!!
I hardly think that the "giant" catfish population at Utah Lake is in trouble. If anything, it's going to be all the small catfish that people are going to load their freezers up with -- and wouldn't that actually help make more big catfish? I think you should look at this from another perspective, and look at the advantages it may provide.
One advantage is that you get to quit your job and start a new club!!
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you are very welcome. I'm glad to be able to help out.
[quote FishMcFisherson]
If the dwr was so perfect, there wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
As quoted before, my concern is over harvesting of large fish. Are you going to tell me that if this plan doesn't work that the dwr is going to plant 20 lb catfish in Utah Lake? Because they aren't.[/quote]
I don't ever recall the DWR, or anyone else, saying they are perfect. Far from it. Especially when you have the public that thinks they should be involved in management -- that's where the issues come into play. Just read this very thread -- you have anglers that think you need to protect ever big fish in our waters, which very often has opposite effects from what the anglers desires are. It's called a lack of understanding.
You are correct, the DWR would not stock 20lb catfish.
I want to know who's catching these 20lb catfish today? Why are we not seeing pictures posted all over the interwebs with this plethora of giant catfish?!
Further, since we already know all about the magic of population density and growth rates, if a plethora of 20lb catfish were being removed from Utah Lake, wouldn't that mean that catfish were in that zone of maximum growth rates? And when fish are in that zone, this means you end up with BIG fish!!
I hardly think that the "giant" catfish population at Utah Lake is in trouble. If anything, it's going to be all the small catfish that people are going to load their freezers up with -- and wouldn't that actually help make more big catfish? I think you should look at this from another perspective, and look at the advantages it may provide.
One advantage is that you get to quit your job and start a new club!!
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