06-16-2020, 06:27 PM
dubob, you need to go back to duck hunting. LOL
I know you love to argue, and you do it quite well. But it is true, you do use Straw Man arguments! Some of the comments from some of the people are less than accurate, but you have more holes in your logic than the torn net I use for fishing.
I once saw a line in a movie that said "I never tire of a good fight". I think they stole that from you.
I would suggest personally that those opposed to the doubling of the fees, which I see as a money grab in a state that already has a surplus, should start a Face Book page and organize! I think sending emails and petitions would be useful. Still, your best weapon is your vote, and make it clear that if your candidates are supporting this that you will vote for someone else.
The one thing a politician fears most is the loss of power, and loosing that power in an election is more than they can take. They do NOT stand on principle, any of them. (OK, now I am getting off the rail)
Now, should the fees have been raise before to meet inflation? Perhaps, but to force those of us that cannot afford 100K boats and 100K trucks to not visit the public parks because we are not wealthy enough is not right. A sudden doubling of the fees, especially during a time of economic disaster caused by a Virus, well No Republican, and No Democrat would openly support that.
Should the legislature dedicate the "new funds" to a trust that they cannot use for anything else except park management (I don't even think that this is legal in this state), and should they raise the fees a little each year for the next few years to catch up with inflation, then I would consider this a compromise that I could support.
Let me make it clear, I CANNOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL in it current form. Those legislature that I vote for will understand this before I vote this year. If you agree, then I suggest you make it clear to them as well.
Arguing with dubob is like talking to a rock. It will not change the rock and the rock will be there long after you have grown tired of speaking to it and walked off. Worse yet, you can do little to it to hurt it but if hit by it you are hurt.
I strongly suggest that this thread be abandoned. Perhaps starting another that states the facts and provides contacts or a new Facebook page would be more productive?
I know you love to argue, and you do it quite well. But it is true, you do use Straw Man arguments! Some of the comments from some of the people are less than accurate, but you have more holes in your logic than the torn net I use for fishing.
I once saw a line in a movie that said "I never tire of a good fight". I think they stole that from you.
I would suggest personally that those opposed to the doubling of the fees, which I see as a money grab in a state that already has a surplus, should start a Face Book page and organize! I think sending emails and petitions would be useful. Still, your best weapon is your vote, and make it clear that if your candidates are supporting this that you will vote for someone else.The one thing a politician fears most is the loss of power, and loosing that power in an election is more than they can take. They do NOT stand on principle, any of them. (OK, now I am getting off the rail)
Now, should the fees have been raise before to meet inflation? Perhaps, but to force those of us that cannot afford 100K boats and 100K trucks to not visit the public parks because we are not wealthy enough is not right. A sudden doubling of the fees, especially during a time of economic disaster caused by a Virus, well No Republican, and No Democrat would openly support that.
Should the legislature dedicate the "new funds" to a trust that they cannot use for anything else except park management (I don't even think that this is legal in this state), and should they raise the fees a little each year for the next few years to catch up with inflation, then I would consider this a compromise that I could support.
Let me make it clear, I CANNOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL in it current form. Those legislature that I vote for will understand this before I vote this year. If you agree, then I suggest you make it clear to them as well.
Arguing with dubob is like talking to a rock. It will not change the rock and the rock will be there long after you have grown tired of speaking to it and walked off. Worse yet, you can do little to it to hurt it but if hit by it you are hurt.
I strongly suggest that this thread be abandoned. Perhaps starting another that states the facts and provides contacts or a new Facebook page would be more productive?