Would you eat fish from Jordan River?

[percheye]

I know that eating fish from Utah lake is questionable but what about the Jordan River?
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[GEEZER]

I wouldn't sweat it. Long as the fish appears healthy it's more than likely OK. You might want to learn a little more about the subject before eating a lot of them.
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[odthefly]

Not only "no" but "@#$ell no".
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[brookieguy1]

If I were starving and boiled them for two hours I might force 'em down.
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[Muleskinner222]

A few years back a F&G officer told me and my dad, that Utah lake is cleaner than Powell.[shocked]
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[fsh4fun05]

A few years back I believed in the Easter Bunny.
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[bwhitty]

No I would not! I think I'd have to be really REALLY hungry to do it also. Why don't you try some and let us know[crazy]
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[brim]

[] The worst thing it could do. . Is kill ya [unsure]

[RyanCreek]

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I know that eating fish from Utah lake is questionable but what about the Jordan River? [/reply]

Short answer: H*** NO!

Unless it was some kind of survival situation.

Since Utah Lake is questionable, then the Jordan River is even worse since its downstream of it. Its not the just the phosphorus, but I know the fish are probably teaming with intestinal parasites. I saw a catfish with a tapeworm!

Most fish probably do have some parasites, that's why you need to cook them well!
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[percheye]

I thought that the inflow of fresh water from big and little cottonwood creek plus millcreek, emigration and red butte might help with the water quality.
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[Fin-S-Fish]

Sorry but boiling doesn't remove chemical contaminants.....it just makes them well-done. Mmmmm. Tasty. A matter of personal opinion since no tests have been done on fish in the Jordan or so it seems yet. Personally I would question touching the water in the Jordan without rubber gloves, let alone eating a fish out of there. The lower the section.....the more sewage and other plants that empty into it. Naaaaassssty.

Oh as for parasites.....all fish have them. Especially perch. Pineview's perch have long thick tapeworms that move slowly inside the body cavity......they look like a strip of yellow fat. But if you watch closely....they will move slowly. Jordanelle has the little white flecks embedded in the fillet itself of the perch. Someone recently took the fillets to a lab.....forgot what parasite they indentified it as but similar to yellow grub.
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[Fin-S-Fish]

One more thing.....bottom line all fish needs to be cooked thoroughly.......even the cleanest looking perch.
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[RyanCreek]

Can somebody say Sushi? How about the Jordanelle Perch Roll? [pirate]

I knew that parasites were common ias I've seen them in some fish I've caught, but jeeze... not to that extent!

I've heard that frequent fish eaters would be smart to do an occasional parasite cleanse to kill the buggers because they can go undetected in alot of people for a long time. I eat sushi alot and spent some time in Mexico last year so I bought some and took it for a couple weeks.
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[Anthonygreer]

I eat walleye and white bass from the jordan, and nothing has ever happened to me. The orientals are a testament to eating fish from this water. I see 'em with bucketfulls on the ice of utah lake each time I head down there, and they return every week, so I doubt anything would happen to you. Just try and not eat fish from there everyday. Too much of anything isn't good for ya...
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[ChubbyChaser]

No thanks, I've caught catfish with small parasites clinging to the outside of their bodies, probably harmless but just enough to get in my head.

Especially since Ive never seen that type of parasite on the catfish Ive caught in Powell or other lakes.

C & R for me in the Jordan or Utah Lake- just a mental thing I guess?[unsure]
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[RyanCreek]

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I eat walleye and white bass from the jordan, and nothing has ever happened to me. The orientals are a testament to eating fish from this water. I see 'em with bucketfulls on the ice of utah lake each time I head down there, and they return every week, so I doubt anything would happen to you. Just try and not eat fish from there everyday. Too much of anything isn't good for ya... [/reply]


You could have roundworms or tapeworms in you right now and not even know it.

Millions and millions of people, something like 1/5 or more of the world's population is infected with intestinal parasites. Fish is one of the top reasons people get them. And its not just limited to third world countries. Many people don't have any symptoms, and to some it is so normal to see worms in their poo they don't even bother with it.

I'll bet many of those people you are talking about that bring home all those buckets of fish do have parasites. They bring the same kind of food preparation techniques with them to the U.S., and pretty much every return missionary who has eaten their cuisine has to take doses of parasite killing medicine upon returning home. Why also do you think people have contracted tapeworms from some of the restaurants here in Utah? I remember a mexican restaurant in Orem my family would eat at that was shut down because of that. At the restaurant, they even are checked out by the health department. How about at their own homes? I don't think so. Something to think about.

Check this article out below. It tells you how prevelent parasites are and what different ones people can be infected with:

Common Intestinal Parasites
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Also this about fish tapeworm infection in Humans:
[url "http://www.bcbswny.com/adam/Health%20Illustrated%20Encyclopedia/1/001375.htm"]http://www.bcbswny.com/adam/Health%20Illustrated%20Encyclopedia/1/001375.htm[/url]
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[RyanCreek]

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[Jacksonman]

Thanks for the link! I really enjoyed the diagram on how to get a worm out of your butt.[][][crazy][shocked][pirate]

You think they would have been able to describe it without a picture. What a bad image it has put i nmy head.
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[lavaman]

[size 1]"I know that eating fish from Utah lake is questionable but what about the Jordan River?"[/size]

I wouldn't, but that's just me.
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[TubeDude]

[cool][#0000ff]Some people will try almost anything to lose weight.[/#0000ff]
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