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#21
[font "Pristina"][green][size 4][cool]Hey there FGD I prefer the 1st whip finisher. Guess that is because the one I have came in the kit of Dr. Slicks that I originally purchased.[/size][/green][/font] [font "Pristina"][green][size 4]With a whip finisher one can go as far up the shank as necessary to correct any problems or what ever. That would be kind of tough to do by hand. [/size][/green][/font]
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#22
Your comment didn't make me feel stupid. Although the flygodess put me in check I thought the whip I had was a thompson but it is a Matareli. The flies I have been tying seem to work well, the fish haven't noticed I couldn't finish it pretty. I haven't had any come undone on me while fishing yet. I will check out the other video for the matareli tool, the other demos I looked at were only still shots maybe the video will be more detailed
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#23
Good point DR.
I have two of the second one. One the normal size I guess at 4" long with a 1 1/2" hook, but I have a tiny one for Midges. Not that the bigger one wouldn't work, I am a tool junky


One thing to remember is the "TRIANGLE" you form a triangle and it is easy. Sorry for the picture being out of focus, was holding bobbin in one hand and camera/snap in my otherhand. Got to teach Baxter to help on these shots!

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#24
Awsome video!! I will be using the tool now. Very easy to do. Thanks.
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#25
...first and foremost I was not saying saber was wrong.. I was saying that there are other options out there.. and depending on the person one of those options may be more comfortable...

my first finisher was like the thompson.. it was cumbersom to work with and since it did not rotate it was even harder to finish the fly properly..

... the second one I got .. and I think it was an umpqua product at sport chalet is like the first picture...much much easier to use since it rotates.. especially after scruffy showed me how to make the triangle you showed in your last picture...

..the main reason I bought the new bodkin and the half hitch tools is to open up a different option for me.. kind of "out of the box" thing.. there are days my fingers get stiff and when that happens I would like to know about and be comfortable with different options that would make it easier on me yet accomplish the same thing..

..and again.. my pointof view on this is that as with almost everything .. there is almost always an option that can be used.. and that option may be more comfortable for someone to use than the "standard" or "accepted" way of doing it..... for example.. in a perfect world.. we all would with practice.. cast overhand.. but reality is .. dependent on the situation.. anglers comfort level.. surroundings etc. we modify our cast to make it more comfortable for outselves yet still accomplish the same thing. to get that fly out to the fish in hopes it will decide its a good time to eat..

if there was only one way to do things.. then we would not have so many types of cast.. overhand.. bow and arrow.. statue of liberty.. spey.. switch..... or types of rods.. or types and sizes of reels... and the list goes on... [Image: fish-on.gif]

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#26
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 4]Mac....you soooooo need to go fish! Dang I wish you lived closer! I am getting out but would like to a lot more[/size][/black][/font][Image: fish-on.gif](I love this little guy!)
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#27
...which little guy do you love.. me or the icon.. [angelic]

and sis why are you saying I needs to get out more.. I mean.. I do gets out as much as my wife will let me.. hehehe [sly]

..and I too wish you lived closer to me .. or me to you .. then I could get some expert advice face to face.. [Smile]

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#28
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 4]Well, actually I heard you kinda look like the little guy when you are out fishing so I say both.[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 4]As far as the WHIP.....I say like DEVO "Crack that Whip"![/size][/black][/font]
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#29
wasnt the line.. crack that whip.. whip it.. now whip it good.. lol..

btw .. which little guy.. all of those fellers look a little short to me...[sly]

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#30
The little fishing dude sheeesh! [cool][laugh][laugh][laugh][laugh] [Image: fish-on.gif]
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#31
Awwww you are so sweet to say that.. too bad I missed it the first time around..... [Image: fish-on.gif]

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#32
I agree different situations call for different applications. I was looking for a better knot than the one I have been tying. Now I have gained the knowledge of a better fingerknot and now can use my whip tool. The still frames I have been trying to follow were not very helpful but the video that was posted made it a very simple tool to use.
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#33
..I agree .. it was a very good video.. did you notice that that same series of videos showed how to tie off your fly by hand?? and I forgot to look to see if they had something on a half hitch tool..

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#34
I took a look at that David's fly tying site, watched 2 lessons. He tied his knots with his fingers in both. What is your opinion on using bright unnatural colors when tying. I'm fishing in very skinny moutain creeks.
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#35
I thought you were referring to the site saberfish gave us.. expert village I think it was.. it had the very good video on using the whip finishing tool.. plus it had at least one video on tying off by hand.. similar to how David Cammis does it..

.. as for colors.. I am very new to the art of tying flies so I hope I have not projected myself as an expert.. but.. tyers I know on this site such as flygoddess, in most cases, usually tells me to go nuts with color.. but my fishing situation here is on stillwaters.. so I am not sure what colors or variances of colors could or would be used in the situation you described..

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#36
...dont forget the bi-polar worms.. hehehe [Image: fish-on.gif]

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#37
[center][font "Pristina"][green][size 4][cool]Oh yea the old bi-polar worm character. Orange, green or what ever tickles one's fancy. [Image: fish-on.gif][/size][/green][/font][/center]
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#38
Keeping it real seems logical, but hard to see at times. I am fishing very skinny waters with a lot off little rapids and turbulants so visibilty would be nice. But I am having a hard time convincing myself that these finicky fish would rather hit a flourecent piece of yarn over something that resembles an insect. I also haven't fished for trout for almost 20yrs. and when I did I was using spinnig gear throwing rooster tails and worms, and with much embarressment little balls of wonder bread wich did quite well. I watched a video wich showed a parachute fly that seems like it may be the ticket, keeping the color on the upside of the lure.
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#39
my point exactly.. btw.. have you had a chance to fish yours yet??

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#40
here is an alternative you may want to try.. and this has been discussed here before..

if your'e concerned the fish wont like colors in their "food" Id keep it looking as real as you can .. but.. to help keep track of whats going on you could use a small flourescent colored indicator.. you can buy these or make them yourself.. again.. just a suggestion...

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