pond fish

[pwilson]

i fish in ponds and small creeks and have only had success at night an during winter. my favorite spot i've caught about a 3.5 pounder and 1-2 pounder. but only at night during the winter months. i've been fishing all spring and havent connected with one. day or night. any suggestions??
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[pwilson]

i forgot to mention that my brother has caught some there this spring. and i use a small inflatable boat to get off the shore. thanks
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[fsh4fun05]

If you could give us some more info about where you are fishing I'm sure we can help. What state, clarity of water, depth, cover. In short, explain what a picture of where you are fishing would look like.
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[Martini78]

Like fsh4fun05 said, list more specifics. Without too much info, I'd try a small buzzbait or other tpowater in the pond, especially close to overhanging shore vegetation. Also try a weightless Senko around that cover.
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[pwilson]

i'm in fort worth texas. in one corner there is a downed tree from a storm a few years back and in the opposite end there is reeds and cat-tails. most of the pond is from 4-5 feet but the deepest point is probably 7-10. the water is clear-murky. depends on the rain really. there is vegetation everywhere in the water which is why the jigs i usually caught them on wont work cause i usually come up with a huge clump of hydrilla it looks like. where can i find a senko? i've looked numerous places and havent found them.
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[Martini78]

Google "Senko" and you'll find more than you can read about in a week.

Wal-Mart even sells Wave Worm Tiki Sticks and Kinami Flash (same MFG as the original Senko). Also, Google Gary Yamamoto Custom Baits and you'll see some videos on his site explaining how to rig them.
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[fsh4fun05]

Before you know it you are going to be catching some bass. Send me your address in a pm and I'll hook you up with some baits to try from Transition Tackle. The only stipulation is that I want to see some pics of the bass.[]
I wish I could be fishing in Texas right now...I had to cancel my trip to Fork because I am a "dedicated worker".[mad][mad][mad]
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[pwilson]

is the senko a yamamoto bait? i've seen them in action on fishing shows and have heard great things. if they are a yamamoto bait i didnt realize that and i probably overlooked them......i've never been to lake fork fsh4fun but i have been to ray roberts, very nice.
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[Simp]

I fish in a pond as well. the water condition is kinda the same, except it's not as vegetated as yours. I've gotten success this year on small black/silver crankbaits, and the shaky head jig, introduced to me by good ole' martini78. I put a green pumpkin fluke on a 1/8 gamakatsu jighead (but I prefer the jigheads with the little corkscrew on the end, it gets the shaking action better) and i dropped the jig by some structure. In a matter of minutes a 1¼ lb. white crappie took it. 15 minutes later a pounder bass took it.

So keep working the jig, try some different lures. Near the structure, just twitch it. Experiment with the colors, and you're bound to get some hits.
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[pwilson]

simp, do you have a preference on a shaky head? do you know of any that could fight through heavy veggy? this stuff in this pond is everywhere. i also read some of your other posts, and the stuff growing on top of the pond you fish is good. i throw a top water scum frog on top of the grass and crawl it through the stuff. ( works better on matted grasses, if not it'll look like a frog in the middle of the water) the bass see the silhouete of the frog and when you crawl it over a gap in the grass you get strikes.

o and also how small is the black/silver crank and how deep does it dive?
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[Simp]

Uhh, I like the jigheads with the corkscrew coming from the head. As for fighting through a lot of vegetation, I'm really not sure. you'll just have to try it.

As for fishing the frog, the moss is gone away, and the bass in there aren't that big, that I know of. There could be some monsters in there that I just haven't seen or caught. My biggest is the pounder I caught the other day. Funny that the crappie was bigger ha.

The little crank is about the size of my thumb, and dives to around 3 feet. I got it at wal mart last summer when I had no idea what I was doing. Early in the season when the bass were real young and small, that's what they'd hit. I haven't caught any on it in a couple of months. They hit that shaky head for a day, and now nothing. We've caught a couple of catfish on the bass lures, but no bass. The weather is way to erratic I guess.
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[lurtch]

im not an expert but when i was a kid fishing ponds just like this we would use a weedless rubber worm with an eighth ounce bullet sinker ..we pull it over the clumps and let it fall into the pockets..cought alot of bass this way..
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[Martini78]

pwilson,

As far as a shaky jig for heavy weeds, you're going to have tough luck, as with any jig. I've tried a bunch and the only one that I know pulls LOTS of weeds is the Buckeye Spot Remover. For whatever reason, I'd always pull in crap with them, so I tossed them in the trash. One trick you can try is sending the tag end of the knot back through the eye so it doesn't accumulate cabbage. I've been fishing Picasso 3/16 and 1/4 oz heads (with the corkscrew to hold the head) and they've been about as weedless as it gets.

The best advice I can give you is to fish the shaky worm (or almost anything for that matter) along the weed edge. The 3 pounder I caught in the early tourney and the 12 I caught last weekend were all bagged right along the weedline. By trial and error and some visibility, I found it and kept hitting the edge with my casts.

Bass like cover because they are ambush predators, so they're going to be sitting in the places where its hard to cast directly into. You just have to make due the best you can, and skirting the weedline is a perfect example.
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[pwilson]

thanks for the advice martini. next time i go which will probably be tomorrow im goona look for the weed edge. cause from shore the only thing i got was weeds so ill have to scope the entire thing out to find the edges.

simp, the frog works. i mean if you have the right situation. even the little ones will hit the frog. a fishin buddy of mine caught a little half pounder on the frog. it swallowed the whole thing. thanks for the info on the crank, i believe i have a few of them. what kind of rig to you use them on?
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[Simp]

What is the brand of the frog and where do you
get it...well, all this is good knowledge for the future, unless the frog works even without the topwater moss. If it floats I have several places I could put it RIGHT by the shore.

Still being very much a novice in bass fishing, I just put the crank on the line of a spinning combo and threw it out. lol
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[pwilson]

simp--the brand is called scum frog. i got the green and white for the visibility throught the rubbish. i got one at walmart and a few at basspro so it really depends on if either of them have any in stock.
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[Simp]

Ahh sweet. I'll have to try them out.
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[pwilson]

they're worth a try. i saw scott martin use them on a fishing show and he did incredible. yes he was on lake okeechobee but it has done good for me in my local pond.
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[Simp]

Well I gotta find something else the bass will bite. They bit that crank for a while, then nothing, then they bit the shaky head for 1 day, now nothing.
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[pwilson]

do you fish regular jigs other than the shaky head? like pitchin or flippin jigs? with a tailer like a yum craw chunk just bounce it across the bottom by some structure, thats what i caught my biggest bass on and a few other small ones. but that is my favorite way to fish. i used them on a spinning reel also.
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