Fly Tying?

[Soft_Plastics]

I want to start tying flies and I think I am going to get the Griffen Spyder rotary vise. I don't want to spend much money, but I still want good tools. Some vises are over 500 bucks! I would rather spend a little more up front and get good stuff rather than go cheap now and get nice stuff later. Most of the the mid range rotary vises I have looked at are 100-200 bucks. If anyone has any thoughts it would be great. The Spyder vise is 85 bucks. It seems like a great deal on a pretty nice vise. Peak also makes a rotary for 150.00. Are griffen and Peak good brands. I expect this thing to last for years.
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[flygoddess]

Not a thing wrong with Griffith vise. The only problem that might come up at all is if you wanted to tie HUGE flies, but most people don't unless you live by the ocean.

But may I offer some other choices. Keep in mind, Renzetti has tons of add ons.

http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?...=447615417

Plus maybe check out some of these coupon offers.

http://www.couponseven.com/coupons/Orvis.asp

http://www.freeonlinecouponcode.com/lp/orvis-di.html
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[Soft_Plastics]

I know very little about tying, or the tools. what type of add ons are going to be handy? It seems crazy to spend a couple hundred bucks on something that holds your hook! I have heard that a bobbin rest is nice also something for parachute flies??? I had a reply on another post that said the Griffen Montana Mongoose is really nice for the money.
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[flygoddess]

Absolutely on the Griffith. With a rotary vise you will want the bobbin holder. Needed to do dubbing loops plus sometimes, to get things out of the way. The extended body attachment and as you said wing attachment.
The Griffith pretty much covers it all.
The only other thing I could add if you can get it would be both the clamp and the pedestal for the vise. I use both on a regular basis.
Don't skimp on the bobbins either. Ceramic or teflon coated.
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[Soft_Plastics]

I think I will spend the extra money and get the Griffen Montana Mongoose. It comes with both base and c clamp. It also comes with a ceramic bobbin, material clip and bobbin holder. I would rather buy a good one now that learn how to tie and end up buying another one down the road.
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[flygoddess]

With that vise you might not need to buy another one. I know guys that have been tying for years and are using that one.
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[Soft_Plastics]

It seems like a great set up. The posts in the utah forum are funny. I know this is a bottomless pit but that is what it is all about. My fishing obsession, and my Scadden boats are not enough. I need something else to get me in trouble with my wife. After doing more research I think I am goint with the Renzetti Travler. It seems to be very well built. Thanks for the input.
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[basskikker]

best to spend a little more money for better equipment in the long run
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[jigs]

when i first started tying i bought a cheap vise just to make sure that the hobby would stick. let me tell you spend the cash and get a good one. now saying that my vice is by no means a 200 dollar vice but its a sturdy vice with a good warranty. good luck. now you will have a hobby to do when you cant get out and fish.
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[drowning_flys]

Im not knocking the high dollar vises but i just don't get it. I have been tying for 10 + years and haven't had a problem and recently a buddy bout a high-dollar vise with a rotating head base and all the good stuff ranted for a week for me to come try it. I didn't have the heart to tell him that i thought it sucked. Just something to think about more is not always better. But then again im tying on somthing like this



this is what he bought


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[MMDon]

I own the Renzetti and love it! You will be very happy with your choice!
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[packfish]

A nice quality vise is just that- NICE.
I started with a vise someone just gave me- When I finally obtained a quality vise sure made my time at the bench more enjoyable.
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[flygoddess]

That is it. You can make anything work, I have even used vise grips leatherman and stuck the knife in a log. It worked....sucked but worked.

And the rotary part.... Renzetti being the first, they are tiers looking for that extra and they came out with a vise that turns.

Both my vises are rotary. Do I use it all the time, no. It is awesome to get nice even tight ribs, to look at the fly from all angles, and as far as a dubbing loop, well, to me there is no other way that with a rotary.

It is what you get use to. However, it didn't take me long at all to warm up to it after tying for 10+ years on an inexpensive older model (no offense, but looked like the black one)

Another big plus to the vise you got which is NOT true of all vises....you can tie from #2 to a #32.

The shaft on a clamp model is longer, but a pedestal can certainly be used. It just sits higher.

But it all boils down to it is just a holder for hooks. We decide what we need from there and for what reason.

Here is the vise I use for shows:


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