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Help with salt water rigging
#1
How's it goin everyone, I'm new to the float world and have been slowly picking up information on the net and finally found you guys. Thank goodness!! I've taken my navigator IV to a lake nearby called canyon lake and have had great success and have recently started to go to the bay off point Loma in Newport beach and landed a few spotties and one croaker but I was interested if anyone could provide a couple of hints on some rigging setups or methods to use. I appreciate all the info and help this site has provided especially the PVC 101. Thanks to all and thank god for a wet line and beautiful fish!
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#2
[cool][#0000ff]Lots of good "inside" tubin' for croakers, bass and halibut along the coast. The bays and harbors all have good potential. I used to fish Newport a lot. Fantastic for chuckin' plastics on the right tides. But, you have to plan your trips around the tides or you can end up a long ways from your launch spot.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You didn't mention whether you are fishing bait or artificials. I used to fish 'chovies on a light sliding sinker rig. Ditto for shrimp or other baits. When you are in a tube you don't have to make the long casts or hold in the heavy tidal flows like you do when fishing from shore. In calm water or on a slack tide you can fish weightless and drag the "fly lined" bait slowly over the bottom to cover more water and provide motion to your bait. That can be deadly for halibut when using dead anchovies. Unfortunately, it also works well for sharks and sting rays.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Tube jigs, grubs and plastic swim baits all work well in the bays. Lots of colors will work so take a good assortment and heads in several weights and hook sizes to use during different tide conditions and at different depths or structure situations.[/#0000ff]
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#3
Thanks for the great tips. I was actually limited on tackle that day and tried a couple of spin and crank baits but ended up having pretty good luck on some "big hammer" brown swim baits suggested by a guy at Turners but only small spotties. I plan on trying the chovies and I was actually off Lido island I don't know why I said lido, brain fart I guess!! Thanks again for all your info, it's been beyond helpful and is it bad if all I think about is tubing or what I can do to improve my tubing all day long?My girlfriend says I'm obsessed
Ps I'll b posting a couple of pictures of my tube and mods. tonight.
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Here are some pics of my tube and what ive done so far. Ill take any suggestions on how to keep the horizontal rod rack straight. I had issues with it sagging over and down into the water and getting my rods all wet.Ive added a couple of bags i picked up from the army navy store for additional storage on the sides as well as a old large chemical mask bag that serves as my large tackle box storage on the opposite side. The top was purchased at the swapmeet and was a stolen idea from someone on the site(works as a great replacement to my original umbrella idea)And i also strapped a camel bag for fresh water as well as a digital compass with temp gauge. Sorry about the quality of the pictures, iphones dont take the greatest pictures.
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#5
This is what I have done with a caddis uboat this year. By making the rod rack vertical with caps on the bottom keeps the rods dry and out of the water. I have also done the same with a Fish cat 4 and two round caddis tubes and a Grigg v6000. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the help, where would i purchase some of those silver clips you hve fastened to your D-rings? Here are a couple of pics to give a better perspective on my rack. If the attached photos dot work i have a couple on my profile please be patient with me im still trying to figure out how to correctly format my pic files
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[cool][#0000ff]Sounds like you got it bad...and it's gettin' worse (tubeitis). The good news is that it ain't terminal. The bad news is that it can mess up your social life.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Those Big Hammers are good plastics...for a wide range of species. But if you want the big spotties and sand bass you might do better with larger swim baits and tubes...or big tailed grubs. Plain white with a red eyed head is always good. Ditto for chartreuse or fire tiger colors. White and blue or white and red are good back up colors. And, if you have some good diving crankbaits they can work great...but it gets costly if you find too much structure.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Not sure I agree with your horizontal rack. I went to vertical racks for salt water a long time ago because sand and salt water do not improve the inner workings of a good reel. You sacrifice some clearance around the tube with vertical racks but you keep the tackle in better condition.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]If you just want to raise up the horizontal rack a bit, install a couple of vertical stabilizers on the long tube that has the hooks on it. Cut in and install two T's...angling down and in...for 6" PVC pieces that will rest against the tube and hold the rack slightly upward. Use screws for the first trial run, until you find the right angle when you are on the water. Here are some pics from the past...of one of the models of slanted rod racks I have played with.[/#0000ff]
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#8
Looks good. You have been given some great info already. I did the same thing on my Caddis Nav with the bags. It works great.

Also your tubes look like they could use a little air. After you get into the cooler water are you adding a little pressure to make up for decrease due to temp change?

May I suggest ---- Life jacket! -- or at the very least get a boat cushion to sit on. It will raise you up a bit, but I preferred that in my Nav. as I fly fish.

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#9
The clips are available at both lowes and Home depot. They are in the hardware section in the bins. You will find them with the clips and pins. In fact they are available at pretty much any hardware store.
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#10
So I'm packin up and heading south to Dana point to give the channel a try. Thanks TD I'm gonna head to home depot tonight to pick ip some more supplies and also pick up some larger swim baits and tubes along with some assortments of jig heads. I'll keep everyone updated. Seems to me that I have alot of fishing to do this summer!!!Ahh I love this tubin!!!wish I would have know about it years ago, seems to me it could have made my discease worse or better depending how u look at it. (What social life?)ps I need a copy to your literary genious.thanks to everyone again I can't say eneough good things about this site and everyones willingness to provide and accept great knowledge. Keep up the great work guys
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#11
Yes you are officially a lost cause.[:p] Welcome to the world of tubin!!!!
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