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[mad][mad][mad] I'm pretty sure everyone is tired of hearing about the young men that were busted with more than their fair share of fish near the end of the ice fishing season on Henry's Lake. I'd let it rest had I not read his post about how sorry he was and all the rest of his verbal effluvium. What a bunch of crap!!
I took the time to speak with this guy on my way out of the parking lot while he was sitting on the back of his red junker waiting for the warden to return from his truck at the head of the lot with a black trash bag in which he was going to place the confiscated fish. I asked the lad "what was he thinking?" and he told me "I just have a hard time letting these big fish go, and this time it bit me."
Rhetorically, I ask you, does this sound to you, good readers, like this was the only time this bunch has pulled a stunt like this on Henry's Lake or any other place they fish? I have to say that his story of repentance and remorse stinks to the heavens. I also realize that everyone has a right to his own opinions, but when someone who's been caught dead-to-rights says that he knows what he was doing and knew it to be wrong now claims that he just didn't know.............you decide.[crazy]
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First of all if it is the real poacher that is posting they seem to have taken responsibilty for what they have done.
Secondly I get as mad as anyone when I see a poacher breaking the law. In this case the poacher was caught and will be prosecuted.
In my opinion we should not try to be the judge and jury on Bigfishtackle. Nothing wrong with discussing the incident and working together to save our resources.
Lets let the judicial system take its course. I know I have made enough mistakes in my life that I don't want to be the one throwing stones. Just my two cents.
Windriver
"Gentlemen,
I know you probably think I'm nuts for doing this, but i want to apologize for this incident. I was the main perpetrator in this poaching incident.
[#ff0000]Without excuse, I knew the regulations, and I broke them.[/#ff0000] At first, when I got caught I was really mad. But, as I've had time to reflect on the incident, and wait for my court date and impending fines, Dec. 15th, I have really come to understand the importance of the regulations and limitations for fisherman.
Before now, I never really took fishing regulations seriously. I felt, naively that there was an unlimited resource of fish. But, I now realize that the kind of fishing up at Henry's that many enjoy is only maintained by regulations.
I want to apologize to all of you fisherman who love the sport, follow the regulations, and who make it possible for all of us to enjoy the fishing we have here in this great state.
I promise you guys that I will never break the fishing limit again, and will do my utmost to make this right, whatever charges or fine incurred.
Again, I'm sorry.
-Ice Hole Fisher- [:/] "
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I say, they did the crime now do the time and hopefully walk away a better person....but I hate sneaky people[  ]
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He's a poacher. A  , remorseful, contrite poacher. Let him have his trial and get his punishment, then he will be a convicted poacher.
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i just cant help but think what if he hadnt been caught. and like was stated above how many times had it happened before.
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I look at this as a learning process ( which is what this life is all about IMO) Sucks to see people poach. It has never sat well with me.
The guys got caught and it seems is willing to try and make things right. In my mind give the guy the chance to do that.
Its no different that many situations that we have all had to go through growing up. From taking an extra dollar from a parents purse/walllet, taking something that wasn't ours, maybe cheating on a test ( all examples that prob don't apply to most, but come up with something you knew was wrong and you still did it anyways) when you got caught you (if your some one that trys to better yourself) tried to learn from it, most likely busted your butt trying to make it right again, and most of all tried to regain the trust/good name that you had before the wrong doing. In my mind a poaching incident is no different. Give the guy the shot to go through the process and better himself.
In the end we can only get better by the mistakes that we make.
Just some thoughts.
With that said, If they are found guilty...... they should be punished to the full amount that the law can. People break laws due to the slap on the wrists as a consequence. If the law is a real big penalty people are less likely to break it.
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I would like to no how many fish over the limit they were . The punishment is kind of like speeding . If they were a couple of fish over , the fine won't be to bad . If they were way over there limit it could be very steep . A guy I know got caught at Mackay with 10 fish over his limit and his fine was $365.00 . But they never took his licence . Curt G.
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[quote Bmarsh]I look at this as a learning process ( which is what this life is all about IMO) Sucks to see people poach. It has never sat well with me.
The guys got caught and it seems is willing to try and make things right. In my mind give the guy the chance to do that.
Its no different that many situations that we have all had to go through growing up. From taking an extra dollar from a parents purse/walllet, taking something that wasn't ours, maybe cheating on a test ( all examples that prob don't apply to most, but come up with something you knew was wrong and you still did it anyways) when you got caught you (if your some one that trys to better yourself) tried to learn from it, most likely busted your butt trying to make it right again, and most of all tried to regain the trust/good name that you had before the wrong doing. In my mind a poaching incident is no different. Give the guy the shot to go through the process and better himself.
In the end we can only get better by the mistakes that we make.
Just some thoughts.
With that said, If they are found guilty...... they should be punished to the full amount that the law can. People break laws due to the slap on the wrists as a consequence. If the law is a real big penalty people are less likely to break it.[/quote]
I'm with you Bmarsh! Thanks for the thoughtful post.
I would rather think lesson learned and maybe a lesson passed along to others.
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I am sticking with the mudsucker on this one. He or they are going to have to EARN my trust and "forgive, never forget".
I know a couple of guys in the past that could cry up a great story only to turn around and do it again.
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And I'm sticking with flygoddess sticking with me on this one. How many of you bygones be bygones and forgive and forget types would want to go fishing with a convicted poacher, after he gets his license back? F&G will be keeping an eye on him, and there you sit beside him. Others who know what he did will be asking if that was you they saw fishing with the poacher last weekend.
He can pay his debt to society, but that doesn't erase his actions.
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I know I can't stand in judgment of these fisherman. I believe all of us at one time or another have committed some offense, but I will only speak for me. I applaud you Ice Hole Fisher for standing up and saying You were wrong. IMO being truly sorry is in your actions from here forward not just saying it and forgetting about it. I am sure you will be given a just punishment. I also believe you need to repay the lake. Spend a day walking around picking up trash or something like that. Do something to make it a better place.
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[quote mudsucker]And I'm sticking with flygoddess sticking with me on this one. How many of you bygones be bygones and forgive and forget types would want to go fishing with a convicted poacher, after he gets his license back? F&G will be keeping an eye on him, and there you sit beside him. Others who know what he did will be asking if that was you they saw fishing with the poacher last weekend.
He can pay his debt to society, but that doesn't erase his actions.[/quote]
In no way am I saying to let him off or forget quickly. But I am saying for me, I will lean towards the side of giving a guy ( or gal  ) the opportunity to fix a mistake and make things right. If they do that.......... Ill be more than happy to fish with a person, or hunt, or anything else for that matter. We all make mistakes,if you don't make them I want meet you cause your the anomoly, its how people fix their mistakes that defines who they are. Its not like these guys went out and killed some one, molested a child..... they kept fish!
Sorry if I don't see that on the same level and want to brand these guys terrible people for life.
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[quote Bmarsh] We all make mistakes,if you don't make them I want meet you cause your the anomoly, its how people fix their mistakes that defines who they are. Its not like these guys went out and killed some one, molested a child..... they kept fish! [/quote]
I made a mistake a while back, I didn't see the 55 mph sign coming into Shoshone. Got off with a warning. But making multiple trips to your rig to hide the fish hidden in your backpack, to exceed the legal limit many times over, is hardly a mistake. Shoot one bull elk and you are fine, shoot the one next to it too and that is a mistake? They had a plan to secret those fish to their getaway ride. A mistake is fishing the day after season closes by accident, or using a barbed hook in the wrong stretch, etc. Stealing fish with planning beforehand from a lake where I have dreamed of fishing is no mistake.
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He made a mistake, he will pay for it. Its frustrating as all get out, but its being taken care of.
I believe this is why we don't have many trophy fisheries and (depending on who you talk to) the ones we have are declining. More and more people are fishing these days, and with that come a certain percentage of idiots. This is an incident where the poacher got caught, but how many times throughout the year does this happen without punishment? I bet the number would disgust all of us.
There are so many people who use the outdoors that have ZERO respect for it. I'm sure all of us on here at one point have had others call us crazy for what we do to have the opportunity to chase fish. They are usually non-fisher people who just don't understand the pull of fishing, which is fine. But, there are people who fish that carry a similar attitude; Its just a stupid fish, there are plenty of fish, I'm only keeping the big ones, regulations aren't serious, I paid for a license so I'm ENTITLED to do whatever I want. It drives me absolutely nuts that people like mentioned above are even allowed to fish! If its just a stupid fish to you then please, don't fish!! I know all of us on here love fishing, but its scary to think about what happens that we never see. I hope people can see why regulations are in place and obey them. A fishery, especially a trophy fishery like Henrys hang in a delicate balance. People could easily make a huge impact on Henrys and those giant hybrids, trophy brook trout, and big Yellowstones could be a thing of the past.
I know most of that was way off subject..................oh well
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Seems to be making the right steps, that's good.
Needs to pay the consequences and make restitution, that's good.
Today's a new day for all of us, and that's good too!
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+1. You hit the nail right on the head.
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I would like to see the original post from said poacher....
Link?
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[quote michael44]I would like to see the original post from said poacher....
Link?[/quote]
[url "http://www.bigfishtackle.com/forum/Idaho_Fishing_Forum_C22/gforum.cgi?post=626685;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;page=unread#unread"]Here you go.[/url]
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Some members of this crowd are pretty tough. Good to know there are so many on this board that are not fallible.
Now before you all get going again, I'm glad the dude got caught, and I'm glad he will serve his penance. He must suffer the consequences for his actions. I hope his earlier post is sincere and if so, he's back on the right track.
My advice to him would be to just focus on doing the right thing, dont break the law and things will go well for him in the long run. Don;t let yourself or others define you by your past actions, and just focus on what you are doing today.
To all who comply with F&G regulations and report poachers...thank you!
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Im wondering about the gentlemen who did the poaching. if he knew to come here and confess and ask for an apology was he already a member and mad a new account to do the apologizing or just happened to stumble on our site after he googled poaching at henry's lake (could have been a lurker too.)
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