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Bait fishing on the Provo
#1
All,

Starting in 2004 the DWR has opened a section of the Provo River (the Casperville section) to bait fishing. I am relatively new to this board and to fly fishing but have been bait fishing for a long time.I have not drawn a formal conclusion on this yet and was wondering on this fine Friday morning what some of your [size 1]opinions[/size]/comments are on this. The [#001805][size 1]article[/size][/#001805] I saw it in this morning was [url "http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Sep/09122003/utah/91774.asp"]http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Sep/09122003/utah/91774.asp[/url].

On a side note good luck to all going fishing this weekend.
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#2
I'm glad it is opened up to bait so I can fish my plastics and not worry about scented ones being illegal .I don't bait fish much but do like to use plastics on trout . I would like to see some of the lower opened up to . Just my 2 cents ........
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#3
Well I don't like the descion. But can live with it as long as it's one section. Still think they should have wanted at least a little longer until the made that descion. Now I just hope that the river doesn't get over populated and that it dosn't get over fished.




my your hock stay active.
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#4
this is just my opinion but the river is over populated and over fished already. just no one is keeping the fish, therefore a total over abundance of 15 or less inch browns who get sick everyyear and die during or before the spawn. last year in the middle section i counted 45 sick browns. in just a few hundred yard stretch. the same year i lost count of how many sick browns there were in the canyon. i stopped fishing that river consistantly quite a few years back when you couldnt catch a large fish anymore and when you received some interesting looks because you had a spinning rod in your hand.

i think this is the greatest thing they have done to the river in a long time. alot of fish need to be taken out and revitalize the fishery. i dont agree with the restoration project they are doing simply because it was fine as it was already. the last step they can do is reduce the water flows of the provo to natural flows allowing the browns some rest during winter and less stress on them. and letting the weber river have its water back so it will turn back to the way it was. of course this will never happen but i can always dream.
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I saw a RAC presentation on this in Vernal and heard from both sides. Angler groups apparently were hoping to wait a little while to see what happens post habitat work and feel the DWR was a little hasty. The division made some good points also, with good data to back it up. I have seen Utah streams with little harvest that end up with numerous small browns. I wonder if it will ever go back to artificials if the bait harvest reduces the numbers and the growth rates increase. Seems like it would be easy to over shoot the objective and over harvest the section. It may be hard to get the bait anglers out later if it goes too far. Hmmmmmmm.

Good Brown Trout Fishing, Kayote
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I spent about 2 years of my fishing experience concentrating on just fly fishing. I looked at the so called "elitiest" views of a fly fisher and they made sense, so for a while, yes, I snubbed my spinning equippment and my baiting friends!!! After awhile I got bored and realized that just being a fly fisherman didnt mean I was God!!!, and redirected my views more towards conservation rather than angling type. It is nice to see that more people are going to beable to fish the mid provo. the over population needs to be thinned out, I plan on do my share to do that with both fly rod and spinning rod, and yes oh yes maybe some night crawlers. But in the "elitiest" defense, all people including them need to understand conservation, limit amounts, trash disposal, and over all angler responsiblity to the enviroment and fellow anglers in the area. Not just there but everywhere. I hope to catch 20-30 inch browns on the mid provo again!!!! [cool][cool]
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#7
Yes I do agree on slowing the water flow down. Yes I also agree that you need to keep some of the fish you hock also. I just see if they open more of it to bait fishing then it's still not going to get vary mush large browns. So one sectiction open ok but I fear that they'll think they need to open more and more of it to bait fishing. Thats wear i see the propblem happening. So yes more fish need to be taken.



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#8
I totally agree with you about the fish dieing. There are just too many of them in there, and no one keeping them. My folks and I quit fishing it once the yuppie fly fishing snobs took over, and now we concentrate on the Sevier River. If you like big Browns and lots of em, thats where I would suggest to fish.
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#9
There are some great waters in the Basin with big browns and no restrictions. I think a significant amount of harvest produces big fish. Just my $.02

Good Fishing, Kayote
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#10
All of my 24"+ browns have been caught in bait fish sections of rivers . Except for a few from lakes . I know that some big browns use to be in the Provo , but couldn't handle all the rude elitist and there gold plated reels on those rivers .LOL I agree with it helping produce big fish . I wont be much help because I don't harvest very many trout .
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#11
ever fish the sevier down below paiute? and or in marys canyon down there? i have been really wanting to learn that river. if you have any tips on access there that would be great. i see alot of private sections on the river and not too familiar with the access there.
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#12
I actually fish on both of them. One of the absolute best ways to catch the bigger browns in the river is to catch some little baby suckers or chubs from the slack water up by the dam, and fish the deeper holes with a dead one on. I fished it yesterday, with only one chub. I did, though, catch a brown that was about 25 inches. One of my best from that river. The other way I get them, too, is to cast blue fox's and panther martins into all the holes you see.
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#13
how is the water quality right now down there? if your ever interested i would love to run down on that river and see some spots that are good fishing. i have some lures and stuff that im sure would coax the big browns out of there.
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#14
The water in there is absoluty muddy. There is hardly any water in Piute, and it's coming out of the dam like that. The fish we caught were from sheer luck. I was fishing with a nice silver lure, and I never saw it untill it was right on top of the water. I probly won't be down that way again till next Feburary or March.
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#15
i was hoping the water clarity was better now. i notice it is decent in the spring time also so i guess ill have to hit it then as well before irrigation season.
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