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Local Resteraunts buying live Halibut-UPDATED!!!
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[size 2]I do not know yet how reliable this story is but I heard from a friend that local Asian Resteraunts are buying live Halibut from local fishermen for big $$$. [/size]

[size 2]Here is a story I found that touches on the subject but I do not know how much these places are paying:[/size]

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Dave Russell, who raised tilapia in California for the live fish market before joining APS, recommended that the first question fishermen should ask before venturing into this business is: "Who is the buyer?"

He said that the current climate is good for fishermen wanting to sell live fish because "demand for live marine fish is still greater than supply." The Asian market, in particular, seeks a wide variety of species, including summer flounder, American eel, and black sea bass, for sushi and steamed fish.

Roy Castle added, "Fishermen need to diversify to meet these market demands. Offering 10 different species is far better than just one."

For fishermen, there are a few stumbling blocks to securing relationships with these markets, not least of which is the language barrier and cultural differences in dealing with Asian wholesalers. More recently, the larger eastern cities also have growing markets for sushi bars and gourmet restaurants.

But, Castle recommended, "It is often easier for most fishermen to work with a wholesaler or broker than to sell live fish directly to a retail market."

Skip Kemp, the North Carolina Sea Grant Seafood Marketing Specialist, said that buyers often bring their trucks directly to the dock so the trip needs to be worth it. "Eight hundred to 1,000 pounds is worth it," Kemp said.

Some fishermen in North Carolina have developed holding tanks on shore to safely keep fish alive until they can catch enough fish for a buyer to send a truck.

In November 2000, Cape Live Seafood opened a HACCP-certified facility in the town of Harwich, MA to hold live fish landed by the project's vessels in aerated tanks until buyers send trucks to pick them up.

When holding live fish, fishermen need to be aware of water quality considerations such as temperature, salinity, dissolved oxygen, and the fish density in a tank a particular species can withstand.

Although the handling of live fish requires special care for a fragile product and a discerning market, most would agree the timing is good for fishermen to explore the emerging options in the live fishery. For more information on handling live fish, contact your local Sea Grant extension program.[/size]
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Hi there fishfather,

With all the oriental eateries in the Long Beach/Cerritos area, I wouldn't doubt what you say is truer than true. I got the feeling when you said fisherman you meant commercial fisherman fishing under commercial fishing regulations.

I know for a fact that fish caught under a Califonia DFG sportfishing license cannot be transported live from where it is caught outside of sections 4.0-4.3, and 230 for special cases.

What is interesting is that no matter how hard I searched in the two 60+ page, 2003 freshwater and ocean sportfishing pamphlets, I couldn't find any reg there saying you can't sell 'sportfish' caught fish although I'm sure that's the case. I suppose if I looked in the 10 inch thick regulations book they have 20 pages on the subject. ha ha

One of the boats I worked on in Japan was a live fish boat. We had two holds, one for bait and the other for the live fish we caught. At the end of the trip, we'd pretty much drain the live fish hold and a crane would pick up the hold with the fish and put it on a special converted 4 ton truck and then take it to places to sell directly. These shops had huge aquariums that held even 15 pound yellowtail.

JapanRon
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[cool] You're right on that one JR. The DFG would manage to get someone on some small little clause somewhere therefore taking away our right to free enterprise.[Tongue]
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[size 2]I was referring and I guess the story referred to the individual angler not commercial. I did see several things about commercial boats being allowed to sell, in fact it is huge in San Fransico.[/size]

[size 2] But nothing really governing the individual sportsfisherman selling them to a restaurant.[/size]

[size 2] If it is legal and regulated then I agree, do it. Fish and make money too. Sounds good to me[Wink][/size]

[size 2] I sent an e-mail to CFG to see if this practice is legal. I know for commercial boats they have to meet certain rules.[/size]

[size 2] When I get the response I will post it.[/size]
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years ago when i was a deckhand out of port 'o' call sportfishing ( san pedro ) a block are two were you enter ( by the courthouse/jail still there ? ) there was a japanase restaurant we used to take fresh caught yellowtail and tuna they would give us all we could eat and all the sake or beer we wanted man i miss CA.

chris
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Hey there aquaman,

Ya, I forgot to relate the story where 3 years ago I went down to SD for an overnighter tuna trip. We got back at the dock and there were about six vans with their backs opened up coolers full of ice opened up and beside them were what looked like a Japanese sushi chef convention. They walked over, cash in hand, to buy from anglers!

Give me a break! If selling 'sport caught' fish is illegal, where the you-know-what was the DFG? Like.... that was the only day that was going on? ya right! Like Christmas, were all the little DFG officers snug in their beds. (usual boat return time was 11:30pm or so)

When fishfather gets his answer from DFG, we'll know for sure! ha ha

JapanRon
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Still waiting on DFG response [unsure]
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[#ff0000][size 2]Update on angler selling fish. Straight from DFG-Calif[/size][/#ff0000]

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Hello Joe,

Fish and Game Code Section 7121 prohibits the sale and purchase of sport-caught fish. If these restaurants are buying fish directly from an angler fishing under the authority of a sport fishing license or fishing from a public pier, both the restaurant and the angler are breaking the law.

I'd be happy to pass the names of any restaurants that you suspect are doing this along to enforcement personnel. Please share any information that you may have on this activity.

Thanks for your concern,

Best regards,

Edgar W. Roberts III
Marine Biologist
California Department of Fish & Game
4665 Lampson Ave Suite C
Los Alamitos, CA 90720
562.342.7199 Office
562.342.7139 Fax
310.291.8862 Cell
[url "mailto:eroberts@dfg.ca.gov"][#0000ff]eroberts@dfg.ca.gov[/#0000ff][/url]
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