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Went to the Govn't Wash last night around 4, fished until 7... NOTHING not even a bite. I had two poles in the water one just had an anchovy and hook and weight. On my other pole I tried pretty much everything in my tackle box... Squarebills, spooks, poppers, and lipless cranks. I also tried chumming with anchovies which just attracted the Gulls... pretty sure they snatched up everything I threw out there.
It didn't seem like anyone was catching anything though. A kid did catch a very small fish but it was to far away to identify. I think I will try 33 hole today probably get there around 2pm. Hopefully Ill have a bit more luck.
I'm not used to fishing with frozen anchovies... but I had a really hard time keeping them on the hook when casting... I think they may have thawed too much on the drive out to the lake... or maybe I was hooking them wrong?
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Try storing your frozen chovies in dry ice in a small lunch box. However, dry ice costs about $7 for a small package.
Or use the reusable lunch box ice-packs in a small lunch box. Use 2 ea to sandwich between the frozen chovies. It works for me for several hours.
Either way, the bait will thaw after the first cast so make it good and let it sit for about 20 minutes. if no bites, reel in and add fresh bait.
You might want to cut your 'chovies in quarters, chum the head and tail. Use the middle pieces with the guts inside and hook through both sides. Try not to handle too much and only hook once. I use #1 circle hooks. Also cut bait using 5" Fiskars Kids Scissors (not the safety kind). Saves using a knife and cutting board.
Sardines are tougher so you might give them a try.
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go get some live minnows at sandy cove bait shop, or buy some goldfish. frozen chovies are a pain in the a$$ but, u have options.
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[quote Undurtow] go get some live minnows at sandy cove bait shop, or buy some goldfish. frozen chovies are a pain in the a$$ but, u have options.[/quote]
The problem with live bait is keeping them alive. That means having a livewell. Either an aerator bucket of partially filled with ice. The ice is to keep the temperature right. In this heat, especially around the summer, the water will get too hot and the bait will die. There is also a Frabill® Flow-Troll that allows the water to exchange. The Flow-Troll is good for a boat but not sure if it is usable on shore without any current ? Perhaps a floating basket might work.
Also you can try to catch your own live bait with a casting net. Again better from a boat but if the shad are close to shore, a casting net would work.
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a livewell.. GENIUS! lol just tryin to give the guy some other options, somethin other than messin wit soggy chovies.
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[quote Undurtow]a livewell.. GENIUS! lol just tryin to give the guy some other options, somethin other than messin wit soggy chovies.[/quote]
Thanks! I always thought I was an under appreciated [:p].
Nice to give options but for the unintended consequences. Dead minnows are a waste of money.
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gnelson651 wrote:
"Nice to give options but for the unintended consequences. Dead minnows are a waste of money."
Ah, but you buy chovies dead....
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Dont listen to gnelson bud, he has an intellect rivalled only by garden tools.. live minnows are just fine, especially if u pick them up on ur way out to the lake, some will die but thats ok, its still better than chovies... alive or dead
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At the risk of being called a tool bag or tool shed or something like that I've decided to chime in before NWfisherman develops a cut bait phobia. I have a confession to make........I love to fish with cut bait. Anchovies, sardines, squid, shrimp, shad,...I've done it all. It's become an obsession. I have a small freezer in my garage that I keep filled with bait. Sometimes I sit out there by myself on really windy days and admire it. I keep the bait separated in little plastic bins so it is easy to find and count how many I have left. I even make my own bait. I net extra shad and take them home on ice and make tray bait. Sometimes when my wife is talking to me about something I don't listen to her because I'm thinking about cut bait. Thank you, I feel better now!
Now for some cut bait tips:
* FIND THE FISH- all the fine cut bait in the world is worthless if there are no fish around. The reason why Bass fisherman buy $50,000.00 boats is so they can find the fish.
* Try to keep the cut bait that you are going to put on a hook frozen as long as possible.
*Soak cut bait that you plan to chumm with so it will sink fast and the birds won't get it. I don't mind feeding the ducks but those gulls piss me off when they get my cut bait.
* Listen to Bass fishermen with respect on every subject about fishing except cut bait because they hate it. A very good friend of mine who is an excellent Bass fisherman calls cut bait "sh.." " What do you want to use that sh.. for?" or something like that.
Sorry I'm rambling............
BaySport
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Didnt call anybody anything, just saying that gnelson forgot to pay his brain bill. Im born and raised here, as a kid I used to put live bait in a 5gallon bucket, walk around and fish with them all day at the lake. if gnelson cant keep them alive, thats his problem.. I can! nothin wrong with cutbait, just said it can be a pain.
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I had a little better luck saturday 4/07/12. I went out to 33 hole, except I took the first right instead of going straight to 33 Hole (can't remember what the name was on the sign). I fished off a point facing an island. I got there around 3pm fished until 7:30pm.
I have the 2 pole stamp so I had one with chovies bullet weight and about 2 foot leader, on the other I used lures. I had no luck with any top lures or really any lures maybe I got them too big? This time I packed the chovies in my cooler under the ice instead of on top and they seemed to stay frozen longer. I used just the heads (chumed the rest of the body) and ran the hook from where I made the cut, into the head, and up through the top of the head, so the hook was exposed out the top of the head with the point of the hook going towards where I made the cut (shouldve taken a picture). Baiting up the chovies this way worked really well for me and I didn't have a single one fall off during casts.
I caught 2 stripers both around 5:30pm and both on my chovies pole. The first one was a decent sized one and measured 22" (dont have a scale so I dont know the weight) and the second was about 13". Both were a bit on the skinny side but I kept them and was able to get decent fillets.
My problem with live bait is
A. I have never used it before
B. Its one more thing I have to carry with me (can't just be thrown in my cooler with my barley pop)
C. It just seems like more of a hassle than cut bait
Maybe one of these times I will give live bait a try. If it works and catches fish thats all I really care. Cut bait seemed to work for me so I will probably keep using it for now.
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whatever works for ya buddy
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I don't really mess around with bait fishing too much, every now and then but not a ton. Anyways, if it was me stuck on the shore line fishing I would be using a slip bobber set-up verse bottom fishing. Easy enough to configure one up to put that bait several feet off the bottom to anywhere in the water column one desires. Back in December when the Threadfin where easy to catch by the hundreds I was baiting and fishing them from the boat 1-2 feet off the bottom. Madi and I were catching upwards of 60 Stripers between sunrise and lunch that way every time out. No snags and simple.
Lure wise from shore, rattle trap. You can cast them a mile and work any depth you want and really cover some water with one lure.
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You know, my father in law was suggesting I use a slip bobber setup. I don't have the bobbers right now but they are pretty cheap maybe I'll give that a try. I was having trouble with snags with my carolina rig which wouldnt be an issue if I went for a slip bobber setup.
I did try rattle traps and I was using it when I knew there was fish in the water (I had just caught one on my carolina rig pole). I'm thinking the ones I have are either a little on the large side or I wasn't using it at the right depth. I prefer using lures (keeps me busy) but so far I have only had luck on bait. At least in this state I can have two poles in the water at once so I can do both :-)
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Like Undurwhere
I have also fished Mead all my life and chovies seem to at least get you a fish or two,better that a big fat skunk. Live bait is a better choice but a chovie is simple and effective.
Good luck bro!
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[quote Undurtow]Dont listen to gnelson bud, he has an intellect rivalled only by garden tools.
Didnt call anybody anything, just saying that gnelson forgot to pay his brain bill. Im born and raised here, as a kid I used to put live bait in a 5gallon bucket, walk around and fish with them all day at the lake. if gnelson cant keep them alive, thats his problem.. I can! nothin wrong with cutbait, just said it can be a pain.[/quote]
Derogatory comments from a Moderator...interesting. So who is moderating the Moderator?
So I find live bait a hassle and have a different opinion? No reason to be so spiteful...we can always agree to disagree. If live bait trips your trigger fine but don't think your opinion is the only one. Hauling 30 lbs of water in a minnow bucket is not my idea of fun.
FYI: I've been fishing Lake Mead prestriper years when catching 18" Rainbow trout was common (probably while you were still pooping your diapers ).
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LOL oh ok, I get it.. u can call me, or say whatever u want to me and Im not allowed to call u unsmart? thats my opinion, im entitled to it.. I dont say anything on here to people that I wouldnt say to them in person.. thats a fact
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Excuse Me?
I didn't call you any names or imply you are stupid.
As a Moderator, you should hold yourself to a higher standard and as such should be above board in your comments. Making disparaging remarks only encourages others to do the same. Its called it "leading by example."
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dude really, im not the president.. im a moderator..on a fishing forum... now ur just being dramatic
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Derogatory comments from a Moderator...interesting. So who is moderating the Moderator?
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Undertow has been banned. He likes to make disparaging comments towards those he disagrees with and such behavior is not acceptable on this site. I can't understand why he was ever given moderator privileges. Good riddance!
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