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Im wanting to upgrade my spinning rod.
Currently have a 7' Shakespeare UglyStik Lite, for $30 I cant complain it has taken 1" blue gills all the way up to a 26" Walleye with ease (have yet to have a fish die from exhaustion due to rods inability to quickly land fish). Its durable and dependable my only complaint is it doesnt quite have enough backbone for consistant hook sets on bass, it works and I still catch plenty but I also miss a few because it doesnt set the hooks hard enough.
Im wondering if there is a rod that is gentle enough for fishing for stocked trout in Idaho's lakes/reservoirs, but also strong enough to give me slightly better hook sets on bass?
Ive gotten to where I am MOSTLY fly fishing for trout and spin fishing for bass but somedays I just have to switch it up. I only go bass fishing on occasion or when I have nothing better to do. Im currently going to school up near Coure D'Alene Idaho and there is some awesome bass fishing that I would like to go hit this fall and early summer.
I have $150 that MUST be spent at Cabelas (gift card) Would you, keep ugly stik for small fish and get a new rod and reel for bass and other big fish? Or Buy rod for both and keep ugly stik as back-up?
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nope there is no such animal...
you have a choice between
fast action
medium action
slow action
yes you need to have a seprate rod for bass if you hare having difficulties in setting the hook.. You will deffenantly want to go medium action.
you dont have to spend your bank roll on a medium action if you are fishing for them part time.. I would sugest picking up a nice telliscopic spinning rod and a comparible reel to match. Both together will run you in the neighborhood of $50oo and that is with refilling the spool with a higher quality line.
I have several of those rods, I can tell you that you can land a 15lb carp with it no problems. I keep mine in the truck 24/7/365. you never know when you get the itch to fish. or see a pond jumper you want to toss a crank bait at..
I have caught trout with mine, but to be honest, the faster action is better on the smaller trout.
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Well my Ugly Stik says that it is a medium action, it jsut feels like it doesnt have the back bone. I dont want another one that is the same, any recomendations on a rod?
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May I ask why you don't fly fish for Bass? I have caught white bass, large mouth, small mouth, all the past month and I am talking a bunch, but I use Fly gear.
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Oh I do, BUT my biggest issue with fly fishing for most of the bass I fish for is being able to cast out far enough and get my fly down to the bass before the blue gill eat it. I can literally catch a blue gill within seconds of my fly hitting the water they are so agressive. With my spinning gear I can weigh it down enough to get it down low past the blue gill and into the bass territory. Also the bank has a lot of brush and cover so you can barely even roll cast without snagging something.
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If it's med. action it maybe the way you are setting the hook. Do you reel down before setting the hook? Wait those few seconds before you set the hook and try that. You can always try and find a med/heavy rod, but try and save your money. Remember you won't set 100% of all hookups.
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Rhino by zebco has a medium rod that is slightly stiffer than a medium rod than the ugly medium. for under 50.oo I have one my self, I use it for walleye and atlantic salmon, it would be just fine for bass.
I sugest you visit a store and put your hands on a rhino, the one I have is a glow tip for night fishing.... [url "http://www.rhinofishing.com/Rods.html"]http://www.rhinofishing.com/Rods.html[/url]
I am sure you can find one of our sponcors who sell this rod
but if you are not keeping your line tight, the stiffest rod in the world wont make up for all the slack you are trying to yank back.
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As far as I know Im keeping my line tight, the way I fish my little tube jigs is a slow retrieve along the bottom. I keep my tip down close to the water and slowly reel with an occasional subtle jerk of the rod, most fish take my hook when im reeling in. I proceed to set the hook twice and still dont always hook fish.
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Generally there are three types of rods used today graphite, fiberglass, and bamboo rods. Fiberglass rods are the heaviest of the new chemically made material rods and are most popular by new and young fisherman because they are virtually indestructible. Bamboo rods are the heaviest of the three, but people still use it for its feel. Today's most popular rod tends to be graphite for its light weight characteristics and more accurate cast.
We use the many specifications use to delineate the rod uses include power, action, line weight, lure weight, and number of pieces.
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Not trying to be an asshole but yes, I know the differences. Own one of each rod (bamboo is just an old one I found in a garage and is no longer useable) but I know what they are.
Also did an entire senior project where I built my own fly rod which in turn required me to research why I chose what I chose and why its better/worse.
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sounds like you are doing every thing right,
If you are using single hooks,,,
there is a hook available that can help in the setting, it is a circle hook, it is designed to turn in the mouth of the fish with its off centered point.
I have used them and have gotten a greater number of hookups. especialy with those hard mouth walleyes.
owner makes some good ones, down side they are expencive, up side more fish in the boat [cool]
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Could the actual style of hook Im using be a factor? I dont have the money to go buy expensive jigging hooks or anything like that . I got to Cabelas and get the big Eagle claw packs of live bait hooks. Just the normal hooks you use for worms or you would buy pre-snelled.
I have never had an issue hooking the walleyes and smallies while fishing with my cousin on his fishing water. But lately with these large mouths and even some sun fish I cant get half my hook sets.
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Yes, the hook you use dose have a lot to do with your hookups.
you can find less expencive circle or octopuss live bait hooks. owner brand is just one of the more expencive.
I tie my own snells, it saves a lot of money, especialy with the pan fish. I also tie my own crawler harnesses, single double and triple hooks, it is just a series of snell hooks. the best part of tieing your own is you know you are getting a quality line.
wich is another thing about setting your hooks, I have heard many stories over the years about line strech being a factor about seting. "tho I have never noticed any losses due to strechy line. and again just stay in the mid range with the lines and you should do pretty fair. if you want sugestions as to the best line to use for bass, just ask on a new thread and you will get lots of info.. every one has their favorite line for them.
also with bucket mouth bass, the size of the hook will play a good deal in hookups. I have seen guys fishing with "0" and "00" size hooks. I tend to use #3 for bass and walleye. "personal prefferance"
Eagle Claw is the mid range brand with a good reputation. stay away from the cheep stuff..
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Next year ill have to try the bigger hooks. I started out with some size 10 hooks but got bored with the blue gill so i jumped up to size 2 or 4 just so that the gills couldnt get a hold of it.
In my main water the majoirty of the bass arent that big I honestly believe there is only a handful of them above 10" (I caught one) But the rest are down around the 6" mark and smaller. They dont like big lures so I have to stay smaller and when I do the gills have a freeding frenzy on my tackle.
Going out this weekend to some new water, supposed to have everything up to Tiger Musky or just normal Musky in it so Will report back and try some new hooks. Just hope I dont hook into a toothy critter. [:/]
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go for fly gear instead of that. Fly gear will do the same job in best way.
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if you dont mind casting, you can use rooster tails, they are great for landing bass. I like the yellow ones. they are not expencive, around $3 some times you can find them less on sale twards the end of the season and winter months.
as for the bass and bigger hooks, the 6 inch bass will have no problem getting their mouths around them.
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There is no such thing exists. You have to check out for something else.
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here is a vidio of a roostertail.
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