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The updated run projection is 185,000 min
mid columbia river catch is projected to 130% of the allowed quota. If they shut it early it will ONLY be 112%
thats ok though only about 75% of the fish caught woulda come to Idaho
[url "http://www.dfw.state.or.us/fish/OSCRP/CRM/FS/14/14_05_6sf2a.pdf"]http://www.dfw.state.or.us/fish/OSCRP/CRM/FS/14/14_05_6sf2a.pdf[/url]
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Typical OR and WA. When will Idaho actually get a say in the whole harvest mess. Heck OR and WA folks are pissed because they didn't get to fish longer. Need to stop clipping the adipose and start clipping another fin like the great lakes. The tribes and Idaho need to team up and take OR and WA to court.
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without taking the compact to court to get a vote on the council they wont. Even then it will be a 2 votes to 1 type thing.
I like how in the proposed seasons in the next week or so they dont subtract the fish the exceeded the quota with YET keep careful track of the fish they say are still available to catch.
I'd love to see a different mark. However it is too full of complications for it to realistically work. For one, they count the hatchery fish at the dams to account for the run numbers. The adipose clip is the easiest mark to see for that. Plus just imagine the problems with finding a differnt clip on a fish in a net. By the time positive ID was made you would have increased handling mortality on wild fish.
They just need to modify the seasons to get more ID fish past the lower river. Use a 50% buffer instead of a 30% like they do now
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Clipping fish like they do in the Great Lakes would help solve the problem but funding might be an issue. It doesn't take any longer to check for both an adipose and a pectoral or ventral fin clip. It is very obvious once the fish is in hand. I think it is a good solution for the current situation IF OR and WA would not allow the harvest of those clipped fish in their fisheries.
A better solution would be to get a vote, and a bigger buffer to get ID fish home. The ultimate solution would be no dams, and better habitat and conditions, but now I'm just pissing in the wind.
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while new science indicates that the adipose fin may not be the useless fatty tissue once thought, its still the least hindering clip thats readily visible.
I would have to argue that the pectoral or ventral fins play key roles in fish stability and steering. I dont know as these clips would be a viable clipping solution for a fish that travels 700 miles down a river out to the ocean for 1-5 years and then traverses the same 700 miles in reverse.
There are a couple of better options such as axilary process (little fin next to the pelvic fins) which would be hard to see even close up or you could do a maxilary (jaw) clip which would be expensive. It boils down to the adipose is prob the best clip for many reasons.
Which leaves us with managing the catch thru the OR/WA portion of the columbia. IMO and the only way I see that happening is through the courts.
I think ID would have a very strong case. They have years of data showing that the lower river catch in almost every year is made up of 50-75% ID fish. Additionally they have the pitt tag data at Bonn dam which shows the composition of the run. Everyone knows the early 1/2 of the run is dominated up upriver fish with Idaho bound fish making up at least 50% of this.
I use 50% as min percentage. In reality most years the number would be closer to 70% when the tagging rates are figured in.
Realistically, theres no real way to tell where any given fish is headed when caught. So the catch has to be managed to reflect what years of data has shown. We know based on the fish crossing the dams and the creel surveys whats getting caught and where those fish are from.
I sometimes laugh at the percentages of up-river fish that the lower river fishery reports caught because the taggs going over Bonn almost always indicate a higher percentage of upriver fish in the system then whats getting caught.
Maybe the lower river fish bite better??? I doubt it
WHY this data isnt used to accurately managed the harvest boggles my mind. It borders on stupidity that this still occurs.
I get all worked up over this every year, not sure why I let it happen. I guess every year I hope this is the year Idaho grows a set of balls and stands up for not only us the fisherman, but the resources the state has invested in their product.
Oh well maybe next year it will happen
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I should state I think ID does a great job as far as the production and management of salmon and their habitat. It just when it comes to their say in the fishery we're treated like someones prison bitch
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phutch I am with you on everything that you have stated. The lower river is slaughtered every year with no regards for Idaho fishermen or communities. When a state produces like Idaho does then they should have a say how that resource is utilized and distributed because they do a good job and seem to care. Idaho needs a voice in management and needs to fight for that voice. I want communities like Salmon and Challis to have salmon fisheries to boost the local economy.
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Native American.
Half give a shit about the economy? Let the fish swim this way..
Nez Perce.
Shoshone
Ute
Navavo
My elder's tell me.
Idaho
P.S
None off this ban is mine.
Elder's is it.
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I got no beef with the tribal share. They have a legal right to it. They'r in the same boat. The Nez run hatcherys too. They got the advantage of not clipping 99% of their fish though so most make it thru. This years Selway run is going to be very nice.
I'd love to see the ID tribes and IDFG get together and go to court together. In fact thats the way it HAS to go down.
Oh yea the lower river decided to open fishing again for Sat and Sun.....they are leaving the mid river fishery open thru May 9th this will put the catch 112% or more over quota
At least the majority of ID springers are past the lower river.
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