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fuel mix on power auger?
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What will happen to a 2 cycle engine on a strike master if feul stablizer is added to the mixture? will it cause the engine not to start?
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#2
That's a good question James...why don't you try it and let us know![Tongue]

I'm sure the engine will still start, but I don't know if it does anything to the lubricating qualities of the oil...I would assume they are compatible. But you know what they say about assuming...Hopefully someone like Danzilla will chime in.
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#3
The reason I am asking is because I have a customer with a new auger and he put it in. He got three holes drilled it died and it will not start again. Could the stabalizer be the culprit?
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#4
Might have been to much oil for the spark plug to burn between the 2 stroke oil and the stabalizer resulting in the dink of a spark plug to foul out.
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#5
I use Brigg and Station fuel stabilizer is all my gas that goes in a can mixed and unmixed. I put the max amount in for storing gas. I store all my equipment with the gas tank full. I start all the equipment ever 2 months and they start right up.
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#6
I use stabilizer in my mixed fuel for my power auger and it runs great.
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#7
HFT, I put stablizer in my power auger for the first time, last week. My auger ran very poor and never reached full throttle. I think that the stablizer can cause the auger to foul the plug. I am pouring the fuel out and starting over without stablizer for now. I will use it for storage only.
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#8
What brand stabilizer are you using?
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#9
I've been adding sea foam in my strike master since day one for the past two years. It runs great. It has never failed to start.
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#10
I used STA-BIL. I don't know why my auger didn't like it. A lot of folks swear by it. I wonder if I just got a straight shot of stablizer. I may have to try it again before I make my mind up about it. PS, I used fresh gas and stablizer.
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#11
James, did your auger ever come back home? I hope so.
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#12
James
There was a guy at EC last Saturday that was having the same problem with his new strike master. He asked us if we knew anything about augers. His problem was that he was flooding the engine so bad that you could smell it from 100 yards away. We told him to hold the trottle open and pull it a few time, which he did, and it finally started. But everytime he let off, it died again and he had to go through the whole process again. Might be a bad lot of machines. GO ESKIMO's
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#13
The instructions that came with my Eskimo Shark recommend priming far more than is necessary. I followed the recommendations and flooded mine. Also, the idle speed was set way too low. After a mechanic increased the idle speed, and I only prime it three pumps for the first time out on a trip, it starts and runs great every time. When using it again during the day I first try a couple pulls without any priming and then only prime it one pump at a time if it won't start without priming.
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#14
Did he pull the spark plug wire and check for spark (with the ignition switch in the "on" position)? If so and it has spark did he pull the spark plug, crank it over a few times to help clear the cylinder, and clean or replace the spark plug and replace its feul with new feul (not containing stablizer)?

Feul Stablizer,,, Hmmmm
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#15
I've also used sea-foam in all of my small engines all the time. Anything that uses less than a tank a month should be stabilized. One other problem it might be is my older strike master uses a very rich mixture; 24:1, maybe his mix was a little lean. I wouldn't point the finger at the stabilizer until he's emptied the fuel and replaced with fuel w/o stabilizer and found that it fixed the problem.
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#16
Well thats one mans opinion but I've owned and operated engines (both 2 and 4 cycle) for well over 40 years and NEVER use that crap in any feul, and never had a problem. Its my opinion its just one more form of a "better mouse trap"..
Lordy,, What did we do before feul stablizers?? [crazy]
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#17
As a long time mechanic in my prior life, I can tell you that most of the carb problems on small engines of any kind are due to bad gas from being stored without use for extended periods of time. I use Sta-Bil in EVERYTHING I have. Weedwacker, Edger, Lawnmower, Outboard, Ice Auger, Boat (I have a Malibu inboard as well as my fising boat...),etc. etc. With our climate here, you never know when the last trip or last use will be with any of this stuff, so I put it in always. Having said that, I bought my Mako in December 2004, used it until spring came, let it sit in my garage until a few weeks ago, got it out and it started right up and I've used it 4 weekends now and it runs fine. On my Mako the first couple hours were supposed to be 20:1 mixture (gas/oil) and then after that go up to 25:1. (A little less oil...) I wonder if he is using too much oil?
I don't think the sta-bil would cause an engine not to run.
Dislaimer: This is just my opionion based on long time use of that product without incident...
Randy
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#18
Thanks for the in put every one,I would suspect it is a bad fuel mix. almost every time I see a problem with a power auger it is something simple like that. He was at east canyon when he tried it out. It also sounds as though he must not have had his choke set right if he was flooding it out too.
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#19
I didn't put any fuel stabilizer in the new Eskimo I bought from you, and it's run like a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs!
Supposedly, if you run the tank very low before refilling, and then just going to half full, you'll have very little need for stabilizer. Just run it completely dry before storage for the summer, and it's good.
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#20
Hey Uintaice, that's exactly the opposite of what I've always been told. If you have the tank half empty that leaves room for more air and as the temp goes down water condences out of the air and gets into the fuel. I've always kept everything that I haven't drained and stored as full as possible and used stabilizer in everything that isn't going to run at least a tank a month.
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