Do You Spey?

[chrome_junky]

Just curious if any of my Idaho guys swing flys for steelies? I'm dying to get in to it and need someones brain to pick. ive tried a couple other forums but for some reason it doesn't feel as friendly.
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[Belasko]

I have tried the spey thing a couple times, but not enough yet to really get it. I have thrown the fly with a traditional fly rod for steelies though, with mixed results and a tired arm. That being said I have a close friend that has switched over to the spey rod almost exclusively, even for the Henry's fork and the S. Fork of the snake. If you don't mind a go between I could probably get a lot of your questions answered for you.
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[iliketofish]

I spey []. Although I just started, so I'm by no means good at it yet. I've only been out a few times for a couple hours each time so far and haven't hooked a fish yet. I think I got a bite my first time out, but nothing came of it, so it didn't do me any good...
It is a fun and relaxing way to fish. It obviously takes practice and there's definitely a learning curve like anything else. If you haven't already done so, go talk to Pappi at the Red Shed, he'll talk your ear off about it and show you the ropes. I got the TFO Deer Creek package deal from him. So far I'm super happy with it and he sells it for a pretty darn good price too.
Good luck and have fun!
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[flygoddess]

My hat goes off to you guys that can get out there and make it work right out of the gate.
It is definitely one that requires time. Far more than just a long rod and flinging it out there.
Let alone, which line...

Skagit heads are short, heavy segments of line, often with a very radical front taper (or in some cases no front taper at all), meant for chuck and duck approach. Usually with sinking tips of various rates looped to the front of the head to help get the fly down.
Scandinavian, or Scandi heads are not quite so short and typically have a long, gradual front taper. Like Skagit heads, Scandi systems allow interchangeable tips, but with an overall more moderate casting approach (or in other words less "chuch and duck").
Traditional or Long Belly Spey lines consist of a very long head - and are most useful for the very longest casts with long traditional action Spey rods and traditional Spey casts like the double Spey.
Skagit and Scandi lines come as both shooting-head systems and "integrated" lines while traditional long belly lines are almost always integrated (that is, a single uninterrupted fly line)
I have the Windcutter II Versitip myself.

Knowing what grain for what rod.

Then the different casts involved.

I had the pleasure of having Dec Hogan show me a lot. There are a lot of GOOD DVD's out to show the basics.

Right on to you guys trying for sure.
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[cpierce]

Go for it, and good luck! It looks like a lot of fun, as well as being a very effective technique.
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[ductaped4runner]

How is your wife gonna feel about another fishing hobby lol
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[cpierce]

There is a new company starting up in Pocatello...Rugged Creek. They have some really nice switch rod combos. Check them out on their web page, or if any of you are in the area, stop by and try them out. They are very nice to work with, and the combos look good. Not quite full spey, but another option for steelheading. I think they will sell just the rod too.

http://www.ruggedcreek.com/
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[scorsi]

If you don't have a set up yet I'm selling a spey rod and line. It's nothing spectacular but neither is the price $150 for both. It's a greys g series 14 foot 9/10 rod with an Orvis easy spey floating line. I listed it in the for sale as well but saw your post and thought you might be interested. I'm in Rexburg
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[chrome_junky]

I have talked with the guys from rugged creek and i like what they have the only reason i havent ordered from them is because i heard it can be a pain to learn to spey cast on a switch rod.
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[flygoddess]

[quote chrome_junky]I have talked with the guys from rugged creek and i like what they have the only reason i havent ordered from them is because i heard it can be a pain to learn to spey cast on a switch rod.[/quote]


I don't understand that. If you have the right switch line spooled up with the rod, it should be very similar.
Scorsi, no offense, but I feel I need to let you and other know, I bought some Orvis Spey line and it was terrible. Even Dec Hogan had problems trying to cast it. There is a lot to it. The line has to be matched up in grain weight. You can't just go out and buy a 10 wt line for a 10 wt rod.
Chrome this is the same with switch.
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[chrome_junky]

so does the rod say on it what grain of line to use?
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[flygoddess]

A few. Check this site out

http://www.rioproducts.com/spey-central/...endations/


Also some good stuff here

http://www.meiserflyrods.com/therods.php

Here is Echo's Dec Hogan

http://www.rajeffsports.com/tech_cheat.pdf


You can make it easier by buying the rod and line from the same company.
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