stillwater reservoir (rock Creek)

[sunkee]

I was considering fishing this reservoir this week but don't know much about it. Can anyone give me some info? Bank vs Boat? I heard it just recently opened to boats.

Thanks
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[albinotrout]

I fished it a couple years ago. I ended up hiking clear to the back where the inlet is. Had some nice brookies chasing my spoons.
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[OCF]

Verify that your boat is allowed on the reservoir. I might be wrong; however, I think you have to hand carry your boat down the boat ramp.

Very little bank fishing as the canyon walls are very steep. There is a little around the boat ramp.
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[Fishrmn]

Anglers should check with local, state and federal agencies regarding all watercraft
restrictions. The following lists are provided as information only and may not include all
waters with restrictions.

Fishing from any watercraft is prohibited on the following waters:

Rainbow Reservoir (Tooele County)
Rock Creek/Upper Stillwater Reservoir (Duchesne County)

http://stateparks.utah.gov/resources/boating/laws-rules

Might wanna read this.
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[albinotrout]

Here is the info from the forest service dated August 7, 2013

"UPPER STILLWATER BOAT RAMP AND PARKING OPENS FOR PUBLIC USE"

[url "http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/ashley/news-events/?cid=STELPRDB5431045"]http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/ashley/news-events/?cid=STELPRDB5431045[/url]

The link goes to the actual Forest service web page article.
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[PACKFAN]

Does it have any walleye/[crazy]
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[Fishrmn]

Went to your link. Didn't see anywhere that says you can fish from a boat.

Those using the reservoir must follow Utah boating and fishing regulations.

Fishing from any watercraft is prohibited on the following waters:

Rainbow Reservoir (Tooele County)
Rock Creek/Upper Stillwater Reservoir (Duchesne County)

Okay to boat. Nothing says you can fish from it.
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[flygoddess]

Nothing says you can't. Fishing allowed[]
Watercraft with or without motors can be used. However, your watercraft must be walked or carried about 200 feet down the paved parking area to reach the water on the boat ramp.
The launching of your craft begins by walking over two 18 inch tall fence posts that are about 6 feet apart. If your watercraft can fit through the walkway, you can launch your craft.
Sounds like float tube, pontoons, kayaks, SUPs, canoes all allowed if you can carry or wheel them down. Heck of a walk for motor but could be worth it.
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[Fishrmn]

I would agree that the size of the craft allowed precludes water skiing boats and the like. The regulations quoted specifically prohibit fishing from a boat. So.. yes something says you can't. Fishing is allowed. But the written regulations say not from a boat.
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[flygoddess]

The no fishing from a boat is in the no boats rule. But now boats are allowed...I am betting for fishing.
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[Fishrmn]

The Forest Circus news release says that they will allow you to put a boat on the reservoir. The Utah State Parks information hasn't been changed. You might win the bet, or you might not. But there is nothing in print, or on line, that I have seen that says the Forest Circus can supersede Utah's regulations. Maybe the UDWR, DNR, or the State Parks will chime in. In fact the link says it like this:

Those using the reservoir must follow Utah boating and fishing regulations.

It's a Utah boating and fishing regulation that prohibits fishing from a boat. Until the powers that be say something different, I'd say you're in violation of the regulations if you fish from a boat. (Or tube, pontoon, or any other watercraft)
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[flygoddess]

I will agree it does say no fishing from a boat, so I do stand corrected on that. But AGAIN it also stated no boats...

That changed.

But I will agree to get it in writing. I do see this as a oversight on the Forest "CIRCUS?" part though. Hopefully they will chime in.

Your "Know all" reputation stays intact.[]
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[hookngrinin]

I agree the wording is not clear in the regulations. The boating regulation should have read "no boats on Upper Stillwater Reservoir". That would take care of no fishing from a boat. I can assure you now that boats are allowed on the reservoir, fishing from a boat is allowed. The written regulation will be updated soon.
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[flygoddess]

All in how you read it
No fishing from a boat as boatswere not allowed, but fishing is allowed

So one would take it that now that boating is allowed, one can continue to fish.
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[Fishrmn]

I'm glad you've got your crystal ball working. But the wording is crystal clear. Fishing from watercraft is not allowed at the reservoir. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to fish from watercraft. I'm only saying that the regulations, as currently written don't allow it. I can only think of one other possible reason to launch a boat there. And that would be to travel from the dam to the upper end without hiking around the reservoir. It only makes sense to be able to fish from a boat.

BUT... it isn't legal yet. The Forest Circus can't change the Utah regulation, and Utah can't change the Forest Circus regulation. As is stands RIGHT NOW, the Utah regulation hasn't been changed. Coulda, shoulda, and woulda don't count. You might get away with it. Or you might run into a "Barney Fife" C.O. who wants to write a bunch of tickets. It's your choice. I'm just thinking that the Utah State Parks people need to get with the program and change the regs.
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[flygoddess]

BUT, You posted the NO FISHING FROM A BOAT from the OLD rules when BOATS WERE NOT ALLOWED. So basically, you couldn't do anything from a boat....THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED.

Now, you can use a boat, AND you could always fish the lake...2 + 2. Wonder who would win.[]
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[mojorizing]

[quote Fishrmn]I'm glad you've got your crystal ball working. But the wording is crystal clear. Fishing from watercraft is not allowed at the reservoir. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to fish from watercraft. I'm only saying that the regulations, as currently written don't allow it. I can only think of one other possible reason to launch a boat there. And that would be to travel from the dam to the upper end without hiking around the reservoir. It only makes sense to be able to fish from a boat.

BUT... it isn't legal yet. The Forest Circus can't change the Utah regulation, and Utah can't change the Forest Circus regulation. As is stands RIGHT NOW, the Utah regulation hasn't been changed. Coulda, shoulda, and woulda don't count. You might get away with it. Or you might run into a "Barney Fife" C.O. who wants to write a bunch of tickets. It's your choice. I'm just thinking that the Utah State Parks people need to get with the program and change the regs.[/quote]
For some reason, every time I read one of your posts, it reminds me of Jethro Tull's 1972 concept album.
Great album. Thanks again.
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[Fishrmn]

I don't know who would win, but the regulation that the Utah
Department of Parks and Recreation put out hasn't been changed, altered, or modified. The Forest Circus didn't say you couldn't fish out of a boat. They said you couldn't put a boat on the water. Now they say you can put a boat on the water. They also say you have to abide by Utah's boating and fishing regulations. The most recent Utah regulation doesn't allow you to fish from watercraft at Rock Creek Reservoir.

Whether the regulation was old or new, it hasn't been changed.
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[flygoddess]

As I said...wording. Seriously, boats are allowed now, but only to kick around in...kinda lame.

Always been allowed to fish. If you had an air balloon you could fish it. Now you are allowed to use a boat and ALWAYS abide by boating laws on any water...still can fish, I say yes.
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[Fishrmn]

Yep. Boats are allowed. And I've already said that I can't think of any other good reasons to be in a boat on Rock Creek, unless you're gonna use it to travel from the dam to the inlet without hiking. But the Utah law hasn't been changed.

A+B=C doesn't mean that allowing boats and allowing fishing means allowing fishing from boats. There is still a Utah regulation that specifically prohibits fishing from any watercraft at Rock Creek. When that gets changed then it will be changed to whatever the Utah Division of Parks and Recreation and or the UDWR decide to make it. Until then it is still on the books, and fishing from watercraft is illegal. The Forest Circus regulation didn't prohibit fishing from a boat. They prohibited boats on the reservoir. The Utah regulation didn't prohibit boats on the reservoir, it prohibited fishing form watercraft. The Forest Circus now allows boats on the reservoir. They can't make the Utah law go away. They can't change it. They didn't change it. It hasn't been changed. Until you can find something that specifically changes that regulation fishing isn't allowed from watercraft at Rock Creek.

Might be lame, but that's the way it is on the books.
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