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As promised, we're following up on the Red Fleet Reservoir survey results. (The link to the results is at the bottom of this post.) The regional manager, Trina Hedrick, asked me to share her thoughts on the feedback we received:
Many thanks to all of the Red Fleet anglers who responded to our survey. We had 329 people respond.
A few things really stood out to us as we went through the responses. First of all, we haven't done a good job of educating the public about the impacts of predatory fish on our native fish populations in the Green River.
Second, we clearly did not get the survey out to all Red Fleet anglers. Our creel surveys in 2011–2012 showed many more rainbow trout anglers than other anglers. (And while the clientele is likely to have changed in the last few years, it's not likely to have changed that completely.) However, it is clear that the people who responded to this survey prefer walleye and largemouth bass.
We also had more than 60 individuals state that they would like to help develop the Red Fleet management plan. While we can't have that many people help develop the plan, we look forward to identifying groups and representatives for those groups as we move ahead. I'm very happy that people care so much about this issue.
See the results of the 2014 Red Fleet Reservoir survey:
http://wildlife.utah.gov/pdf/red_fleet_results.pdf
Amy Canning
Communications Specialist
Utah Division of Wildlife Resources
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The survey and the published results indicate the philosophical chasm that exists between DWR planning and the anglers that use Red Fleet.
Rather than concluding that Anglers need more education to support the DWR most would conclude that this agency needs to be more in touch with angling public. (The survey is a great first step.) The Green River has Walleye above Flaming Gorge, below in Lake Powell and surely in its waters currently.
From the angler perspective the survey seems to clearly indicate that Walleye are well received.
THANKS!!
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Thanks Amy. All I can say is you folks can't be paid enough having to deal with the likes of several of those "brilliant" respondants. Choose your planning board carefully. Good luck.
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Thanks for posting, I'm glad to see fisherman in that part of the state would rather fish for the walleye and bass over trout. Just can't seem to get this state interested in the walleye, I think a few more lakes with walleye in Utah would be great. [fishin]
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[quote fishnate]Thanks Amy. All I can say is you folks can't be paid enough having to deal with the likes of several of those "brilliant" respondants. Choose your planning board carefully. Good luck.[/quote]
+1.
It was mildly entertaining though to read through some of that (in a twisted sort of way), don't you think?
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[quote Dog-lover]The survey and the published results indicate the philosophical chasm that exists between DWR planning and the anglers that use Red Fleet.
Rather than concluding that Anglers need more education to support the DWR most would conclude that this agency needs to be more in touch with angling public. (The survey is a great first step.) The Green River has Walleye above Flaming Gorge, below in Lake Powell and surely in its waters currently.
From the angler perspective the survey seems to clearly indicate that Walleye are well received.
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Please show me where walleye are in the waters above the gorge. I know lots of people that fish the river, and i fish Fontenelle very hard in the spring and late in the fall. . I have never heard of any one catching walleye on either the river ,or fontenelle.
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Kokeking, you're correct, walleye have not been found in or above the Gorge in the upper Green River drainage.
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Some of those comments were downright hilarious. I like the one about walleye being native to Lake Powell [laugh]
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Thanks for clearing up any confusion about walleye in the green river. I think some people on the thread are just talking out of their butt.
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[quote kokeking] I think some people on the thread are just talking out of their butt.[/quote]
The survey does prove that of the people who took the survey, most don't fish Red Fleet very often, but when they do, they fish there for LMB and Walleyes. Hmmm. I guess that's because that is what is in there.
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"2004 Green River, WY – A walleye kill meant to keep the fish out of Flaming Gorge Reservoir has been postponed until this fall."
Walleye have been found in the waters above Flaming Gorge. Apparently they were not well receive and dealt with. Walleye are Not native to the Green River drainage just like the Burbot..
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I seem to have missed that comment about walleye being native to Lake Powell -Native- does not seem to be there.
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Quote:walleyees have been in green river for decades, listed as native in lake powell, they were in river when lake established, why all this cattering to usfws?
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Ryan Mosley, the Utah DWR Project Leader at Flaming Gorge has also gotten anecdotal reports from anglers who are catching Northern Pike, walleye and smallmouth bass through Brown's Park.
Wyoming Game and Fish Department
the creel limit for burbot and walleye will
be 25 fish per day in the Green River and Bear River
drainage's seems to confirm the existence of Walleye and Burbot. (from 2006)
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Red Fleet Reservoir is a lot like other walleye fisheries in Utah….unless walleye numbers are kept in check, the fishery will crash. If I remember right, Red Fleet has a mandatory catch and kill regulation for all walleye…as long as that regulation remains (and people follow it), Red Fleet may continue to be a viable walleye fishery. It will be interesting to see what kind of plan the committee comes up with...
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Red Fleet has tons of BlueGill feeding the Walleye.
Well fed Walleye are not easy to catch!!
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The number of bluegill feeding those walleye will eventually go down if the walleye numbers are not kept in check…and, eventually, the walleye population will explode and the result will be tons of little walleye and no bluegill.
My bet is that the Red Fleet committee ultimately decides not to manage for walleye but will try to manage for a more sterile hybrid. With all of the endangered species concerns both above Red Fleet and below it, I doubt walleye will be part of the management plan….unless it is to remove them.
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[quote Dog-lover]KSL Outdoors
Ryan Mosley, the Utah DWR Project Leader at Flaming Gorge has also gotten anecdotal reports from anglers who are catching Northern Pike, walleye and smallmouth bass through Brown's Park.
Wyoming Game and Fish Department
the creel limit for burbot and walleye will
be 25 fish per day in the Green River and Bear River
drainage's seems to confirm the existence of Walleye and Burbot. (from 2006)[/quote]
You might already be aware of this but did you know that Ryno and Ryan, that you mentioned above, are one in the same?
[quote Ryno]Kokeking, you're correct, walleye have not been found in or above the Gorge in the upper Green River drainage.[/quote]
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