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an interesting idea
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShYsBiB7wlE

i think this could be a relatively cheap way of getting salmon and stealhead over the hells canyon dam complex. Wouldn't it be cool to see salmon making it back up to twin falls and the creeks/rivers that dump into the snake river along the way. Also think of the economic boom that we would gain by having a fishable run coming up that high. The fringe benefits to the sturgeon especially would be quite advantageous to those of us who like fishing for dinos
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#2
Pretty cool!

I wonder how high they can go with it?
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#3
wouldnt water temperatures be a limiting factor up there?
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#4
The link won't work for me, but I assume it's the "salmon cannon". It's way cool.
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#5
Althogh we would all love to see salmon back in the upper reaches of their native rivers, it can't happen in Idaho as long as we are using river water for irrigation. Water quality (temperature and chemicals, as well as chronic turbidity) would kill the smolts before they could out-migrate. Even if they installed ladders (or fixed the ladders) on Hell's Canyon, Oxbow, Brownlee, Swan Falls, Strike, Bliss, Lower Salmon, Black Canyon, Cascade, Lucky Peak, Arrowrock, Anderson Ranch, and the various low head projects...I believe it would be a waste of billions of dollars. I would love to have the chance to catch salmon in the Boise River like my Grandpa did.

Sad that we put ourselves in this spot, but people have to eat and everyone loves air-conditioning and electric lights. Sometimes the price we pay for modern conveniences is pretty steep. At this stage, the best we can hope for (and work for) is to keep what we have, and restore the runs that are in place. The next time you see a Nez Perce fisheries guy, thank him. They have done more to restore the runs than anyone else at this point...
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#6
The smolts would do fine from Shoshone falls to CJ. They already raise them in buhl and haul them down to Hells canyon. There are raceways not being used. They did planted chinook in Anderson ranch maybe they'll have a successful spawn and they'll get to the snake.

How's the snake from CJ to brownlee? Looks pretty nasty around marsing.
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#7
while i agree that water quality is an issue but i was reading in idaho powers little handout they send with your bill and they were talking about dredging the snake in some places near marsing to see if it helps improve water quality and the speed of the river and they hope this will allow the water to remain cooler.

do i think this is a long shot? yes but i would support the state and tribal fisheries managers trying this. they already spend tons of my money on stuff i dont like so what if they gave this a ten yr trial period. it could prove to be interesting
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#8
I don't know what it looks like every year but I have floated from Walters ferry to Hope House two times. Both times were in the summer one was July the other was Aug. The water between Walters ferry to Marsing was WAY cleaner than what we have here in the Hagerman area. Then somewhere from Marsing to Ontario it turns to sewage. We could see the catfish at the bottom of the river just by looking down.

The smolts are raised in spring water not the river water, I doubt that they could raise them with river water. I have to say that our water here from Shoshone falls to Hagerman is not any better than the water from Marsing to Weiser. It might be a little cooler but not any cleaner.
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