and those impregnated rubbers are illegal on artificial waters.
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I don't fish any waters that is artificial only , and I won't .
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Awe come on curt69. so those private waters and a few lakes require a little adjusting[
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I fish with artificial lures with out sent a lot . Just not on waters that require it. I fish the Snake from Pala
es Dam , to where it dumps into American Falls Resivior . With spiners , spoons and Rapalas .
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You guys crack me up. If you have some of that girlie smelling lotion on you fingers when you tie on a fly, is that illegal? I coat my hands with smelly jelly as soon as my bass boat hits the water.
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Girlie lotion????? I wash my hands in the gravel and waters...no scent.
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[quote flygoddess]and those impregnated rubbers are illegal on artificial waters.[/quote]
I thought they called them plastics? Reminds me of a visit to Foster, ID.... someone had a lakeside party.
Recall a joke about recycling condoms, but I think we've had enough trouble today.
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+1 totally agree on this note....
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Been keeping' my nose out of this one, but I'll add my inflation adjusted $0.02.
WD-40 ain't bait. But it can't legally be put on a fly or lure that is going to be used in waters that are listed as being "artificial flies or lures only".
From the 2014 Fishing Guidebook. Emphasis added.
Quote:Artificial lure means a device made of rubber, wood, metal, glass, fiber, feathers, hair or plastic with a hook or hooks attached. Artificial lures (including artificial flies) do not include fish eggs or other [red]chemically treated[/red] or processed natural baits or any natural or human-made food, or any lures that have been treated with a natural or artificial fish attractant or feeding stimulant.
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There it is.
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alright here's a question. I have heard of people using WD-40 on their lures and hooks?? they say it attracts fish. is this even legal? does it really work? ive never done if before and ive heard its legal cause they said it's not oil based our something and others say it's illegal.. what are your guys thoughts and information on this,?
So, the intention IS to use it as a scent, which makes it illegal on artificial waters.
I did call it bait, but I use the term in relation to scent/taste.
Also, it is unfair to state CO's don't know as this is not true of all them. Some actually take their jobs serious. But a Judge would be the final word.
WD40 does not list all their ingredients either.
While it dries quickly, it is still petroleum based.
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I don't fish Utah and don't care what your procultion says . Don't even get me started on how stuiped it is to have corn out lawed as bait .
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Are plasic worms , Tube jigs . and all the other plastics we fish with digestible ? I have caught several fish that had these in there stomach . They didn't look like they have started to desolve .
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Aw, come on Curt. We can handle it. It's outlawed because its primary use was for chumming. Most of the old folks who chummed with corn wouldn't put any on their hooks anyway. Chumming is illegal, and therefore the powers that be have outlawed the most popular (at least in Utah) chum. If you can't use it for bait, can't be in possession of it while you're fishing, it's a lot harder to chum with.
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Whats next peas and dog food ?
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I don't know. You can have them with ya. You can use 'em for bait. But you can't chum with them. (legally) I guess if everybody started chummin' with peas they'd make them illegal to have in your possession while you're fishin'.
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Here is my question, whether it is legal or not (clearly illegal in my mind).
Why do we tie flies to match the hatch? Or throw perch colored lures in a lake where perch is the main forage base?
Why do we try to make our presentation as real as possible?
Because if you can mimic something the fish is eating, you'll have a WAY better chance of catching them. Fish eat all sorts of things, from tiny insects, to shiner minnows, to whole bluegills. They eat anything and just about everything in their underwater environment.
HOW IN THE HECK does putting WD-40 on your presentation make it more natural? How does it mimic something fish are eating? IT DOESN'T. It is just common sense folks! There is no reason to put it on your lures.
This topic came up awhile back and a lot of people seem to defend the use of WD-40 without any solid reasoning. They don't have any data to back it up, they just "believe" it helps them catch fish. Give me a break. So what you are basically saying is that it is your 'lucky' scent. Good grief.
Squirt a few dabs in your fish tank if you think the stuff is harmless to fish. If you want to pollute our waters with this junk then go ahead and do it to yours too.
I think the thing is a lot of you (WD-40ers) just need to learn how to fish. I think that is where this problem stems from. People who are great fisherman know better than to put WD-40 on their lures. You don't even need scent of any kind if you are good at keeping your hands clean from foul odors (oil/gasoline/etc). I fish with people who spend more time worried about putting scent on after every few casts... while I catch fish after fish without it. You don't need power-bait or WD-40 to catch fish - give it up!
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Unless you want to catch more fish . Thats the reason I do .
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[quote curt69]Unless you want to catch more fish . Thats the reason I do .[/quote]
I see no reason at all for you to catch more fish using WD-40 than someone who is not.
What lures or bait do you spray it on? Do you spray it on everything? Spoons? Crankbaits? Jigs? Worms? Cutbait?
Let me come a long with you and fish the exact same method (or any other method) and let me show you how wrong you are.
I've heard other wacky claims from fisherman, I think the WD-40 thing is the wackiest of them all though. Some catfisherman swear that rotten baits work better for catfish than freshly cut baits (cutbait: sucker, chubs, etc). They are just wrong. And stubborn. (Stubborn enough to take the time and effort to spoil various baits and then use those baits, ie, transport the smelly mess in their vehicles and boats, handle it with their hands). Just because catfish can and do eat really old and rotten things, doesn't mean that is all they eat or it is the best way to catch them. But some fisherman don't think about stuff, they heard rotten baits work best... they tried it, and caught 4 catfish that first time by god it works. Who knows how many you could catch on the freshly cut baits, dozens?
Are you one of the rotten catfish bait guys too?
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I have friends and family that tie alot of flys . Some are big and gaudy and look like nothing natural , and they still catch fish . I am talking about the flys , not my friends and family .
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