05-20-2009, 05:55 PM
[quote chinook]Are you sure you know the difference between a cut and bow? Don't get mad, I am not questioning your honesty. It's just that I have a hard time believing that you can catch 45 bows without a cut at Strawberry.[/quote]
Oh yes. I can recognize the difference between pretty much all of utahs fish: Rainbows, Cutthroat, Browns, Brookies, Splake, Tigers, Lakers... Kokanee etc. I've fished Strawberry for as long as I can remember, way back when the shanty town cabin areas existed. Also, I didn't say we caught the 45 saturday, its been over the past couple trips but yes, we've avoided the cutts.
I need to clear a couple things up because a few people got kindof pissed about my post (here and at UWN)... when I really didnt intend to stir up anything.
I'm not anti-catch and release. But statistically a certain percentage of fish C&R'd will die. Its been documented too many times. I've seen way way too many dead cutts at the berry from people releasing them. I've seen people that post & brag about C&Ring 50-60 cutts in a day there... how many of those died? One poster at UWN thought the C&R mortality was ok because hey, they pelicans need to eat too. [unimpressed]
I firmly believe LESS fish would be killed in a year there if the lake would remove the slot limit, and introduce a 1 fish catch limit. Sure you will still have the guys that show up, fish all day C&R'ing, and unfortunately causing a small percentage of mortality in the population, but there would be alot of familys that would catch their few fish and leave.
Now I'm sure people will get their hackles raised up with that statement... so I want to clearly state I think BFT'ers are more knowledgable and are much more careful when C&R'ing than the average joe fishing up there with his power bait. But I doubt anyone here will say they never saw someone manhandle a fish when trying to release it, or saw dead ones floating from unsuccessful C&R.
I've never caught a cutt at the berry that was over the slot to keep. That means every cutt I have caught I had to release. I try to be as careful as I can but still I have to wonder did any die? I feel guilty about that... so if I can catch other species and not worry about C&R as much, I opt for that.
I think as others stated, "where" is as important as "what" you are using. There are places at the berry where cutts are in thick, and other places the rainbows predominately roam... ditto for the Kokes.
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] Hahaha Ok I might just take you up on that. Line tangles are common and a bitch though, fair warning up front.
-DallanC
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Oh yes. I can recognize the difference between pretty much all of utahs fish: Rainbows, Cutthroat, Browns, Brookies, Splake, Tigers, Lakers... Kokanee etc. I've fished Strawberry for as long as I can remember, way back when the shanty town cabin areas existed. Also, I didn't say we caught the 45 saturday, its been over the past couple trips but yes, we've avoided the cutts.
I need to clear a couple things up because a few people got kindof pissed about my post (here and at UWN)... when I really didnt intend to stir up anything.
I'm not anti-catch and release. But statistically a certain percentage of fish C&R'd will die. Its been documented too many times. I've seen way way too many dead cutts at the berry from people releasing them. I've seen people that post & brag about C&Ring 50-60 cutts in a day there... how many of those died? One poster at UWN thought the C&R mortality was ok because hey, they pelicans need to eat too. [unimpressed]
I firmly believe LESS fish would be killed in a year there if the lake would remove the slot limit, and introduce a 1 fish catch limit. Sure you will still have the guys that show up, fish all day C&R'ing, and unfortunately causing a small percentage of mortality in the population, but there would be alot of familys that would catch their few fish and leave.
Now I'm sure people will get their hackles raised up with that statement... so I want to clearly state I think BFT'ers are more knowledgable and are much more careful when C&R'ing than the average joe fishing up there with his power bait. But I doubt anyone here will say they never saw someone manhandle a fish when trying to release it, or saw dead ones floating from unsuccessful C&R.
I've never caught a cutt at the berry that was over the slot to keep. That means every cutt I have caught I had to release. I try to be as careful as I can but still I have to wonder did any die? I feel guilty about that... so if I can catch other species and not worry about C&R as much, I opt for that.
Quote:However, I am not discounting the fact that certain baits and techniques favor bows. It just is hard to believe that you didn't catch one cut in there.
I think as others stated, "where" is as important as "what" you are using. There are places at the berry where cutts are in thick, and other places the rainbows predominately roam... ditto for the Kokes.
Quote:I am proposing a challenge. Invite me up to see you catch just 10 rainbows in a row and I will pay for all the gas that you used to get there and back. I would love to have you show us old veterans a thing or two.
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] Hahaha Ok I might just take you up on that. Line tangles are common and a bitch though, fair warning up front.-DallanC
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