As in crying wolf.<br><br>The article below exposes the deceit of the NRDC and how they have deceived 100's of thousands of Americans by using lies. This is the complete story of the San Ignacio Salt Plant. It details many confrontrations with the NRDC during their battle against the salt works.<br><br>Maybe there shouldn't be another salt works there but thats another story, the battle should have been based upon the best science available and where that takes it. Mexico should have had the ultimate decision. IMO, the NRDC represented us in the very lowest tradition of the Ugly American here. <br><br>The NRDC defends itself by claiming the ends justify the means, destroying lives of the people affected, destroying the reputations of honest and hard working scientists, and destroying the truth to pitch an agenda that they admit they can't pitch honestly.<br><br>This is a long article but its a good read for anybody concerned about the extremist environmentalism we are facing. You may as well know what we are up against, the sort of tactics they use, and what we can expect in the future as they come after us. Its about as ugly as anything I have seen in my lifetime.<br><br>When you get down to the end and listen to how NRDC justifies the fact that they don't spend a dime on research to find out how to make things better, I felt like throwing up. <br><br>Get your barf bags on folks.<br><br><br>http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/2001-11-29/feature.html/1/index.html<br><br>Join United Anglers <br>Write to:<br>United Anglers<br>5948 Warner Ave.<br>Huntington Beach, CA 92649<br>(714)840-0227<br><br>Bob O<br> <br><br><br>

For all you Calico Killerz, I just talk to Capt. TJ Schlick on the Eldorado and he is reporting big scores on the Calicos at San Clemente Island. Also some good size Sheephead and whitefish that are actually taking drag. <br><br>Get out and get em' before Davis and the DFG shut that down too......<br><br>Booyaa To Ya'!<br><A HREF="http://www.fishingclothes.com " target="_new">http://www.fishingclothes.com </A> <br>Romero

Being fairly new to fishing (made my first fishing appearance this past summer/early autumn) I'm still quite clueless as to what type of gear I should have to be successful. Right now I own a light-medium and medium rod/spinng real combination. But when it comes to lures, line strength, hook sizes, bates to use, best fishing techniques... I'm at a total lost. The best I caught out of my many excursions this past year was a 7 ounce sunfish (not sure what kind) which made quite a nice display in my aquarium at home (within 24 hrs, it was actually taking live worms right out of my hand). Anyway, I need as much help as possible with the above mentioned things. Without a boat, I'm pretty much stuck with fishing peers and casting from shorelines of the lakes here in the Twic Cities Metro area of Minnesota. Anybody out there that can help me?

I do...<br>What lure do you is the absolute best?<br><br>I've using Cotton-Cordell Pencil Poppers in Trout. They cast really far and work real good!<br><br>Let's go fishing,<br><br>Yer pal, ACE...<br><br>

Oregon Fishing Update<br><br><br>January 4th - January 10th, 2002<br><br>Fisheries update: Are you kidding? No one has taken advantage of my great boat seats for sale on our classifieds page? Check them out and give me an email if you are interested! <br><br>As for fishing, the Columbia seems a little bleak right now. Most sturgeon are staging for the big smelt run most of us are expecting. They should show within the month. Better sturgeon fishing is on the way! The Sandy is polluted with steelhead and the bank anglers are doing better than the boat anglers! <br><br>The Clackamas is nothing to sneeze at either but the Sandy seems to have a few more fish than the Clack for a change! On the coast, most of the major rivers had great fishing over the holidays and the low, clear water conditions should keep things fairly productive. You may just have to go to more subtle presentations like bobbers and jigs. <br><br>Crabbing on Netarts Bay was less than impressive over the holiday but bigger estuaries like Tillamook or Nehalem should be picking up with the lack of fresh water influence the coast has been experiencing. The Siletz is getting a bonus run of early quality fish. <br><br>A good sign for the month of February and March! The Alsea is beginning to taper and the more central rivers like the Siuslaw and Umpqua are starting to gain momentum. <br><br><br><br><br>ODF&W has an unusual situation going on. Most Point-of-Sale locations are experiencing slow license processing. You may have difficulty getting your new license for a short while until the remedy the situation. Hunters and anglers seeking 2002 licenses and tags may obtain hand-written versions at larger ODFW offices, some of which will remain open until 9 p.m. ODFW Information Systems staff is working as quickly as possible to locate the source of the problem and fix it. <br><br>The licensing system will be effectively offline until the problems are resolved, though it may be functioning for short periods as testing occurs. Hunters and anglers must have an official 2002 license and appropriate tag to hunt or fish. Only select ODFW offices may issue hand-written documents. The following offices will be open until 9 p.m. weekdays to issue hand-written licenses should it be necessary: Portland headquarters, Clackamas, Corvallis, Roseburg, Bend and La Grande. Additional ODFW offices may issue hand-written licenses between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. They include: Central Point, Charleston, Enterprise, Gold Beach, Hines, John Day (morning only), Klamath Falls, Newport, Ontario, Pendleton, Salem, Sauvie Island, Springfield, Tillamook, and The Dalles. <br><br>Hunters and anglers who receive hand-written licenses or tags will be able to exchange them for printed versions at no charge from the same ODFW office once the Point-of-Sale computer system is functioning. In addition, hunters or anglers who purchased a hand-written hunting license or one-day fishing license on Dec. 31, but need a combination or annual fishing license may apply the cost to the purchase of the appropriate document. Such transactions may only be completed at an ODFW office. <br><br><br><br><br>Fishermen looking for an uncrowded day on the Sandy might want to consider fishing above Oxbow Park or below Dabney. The Sandy River Chapter of the Northwest Steelheaders are trying to get the word out about our annual Chapter fish-a-long, Frost Bite Follies, that will be taking place next Saturday, January 5th, on the Sandy River. <br><br>This from Ray Hinea - Past President of the chapter and Frost Bite Follies coordinator - <br><br>"We do our best to be respectful of everyone on the river, but the sight of "the fleet" can be overwhelming to some people. Also, as part of the event, participants will be assigned sections of the river for a litter clean-up project. We want everyone to know that our Chapter members are good stewards of the Sandy River and, along with enjoying a day of fishing, are committed to the enhancement of the river environment for everyone's enjoyment. In past litter cleanups, we have hauled out just about every type of garbage you can conceive of, including a living room couch!" <br><br>We apologize for any inconvenience we might cause fellow fishermen next Saturday, but we thought sending out this message might help people better plan their day." <br><br><br><br><br>Paid Subscriber John G. writes, "Hi Michael & Bob, Just wanted to drop you guys a note to say thank you for all you have done this year in putting together this great publication. Each Friday morning I look forward to reading your forecast and planning my weekend activities. Keep up the great work. ... one of my most productive years of fishing which in part I thank you for your tips, techniques, and guide know-how which you share with all your readers." <br><br>Thanks to all the Paid Subscribers who support TGF! They will receive a report this week of over 2,700 words with specific information about where to fish, when to fish and what to use, plus accurate predictions regarding the fishing next week and beyond, all for about 25 cents a week. <br><br>Subscribe now by clicking over to<br>http//www.theguidesforecast.com/giftcert.html <br><br><br><br>Get more Oregon fishing information at<br>http://www.theguidesforecast.com

Oregon Fishing Update<br><br><br>January 4th - January 10th, 2002<br><br>Fisheries update: Are you kidding? No one has taken advantage of my great boat seats for sale on our classifieds page? Check them out and give me an email if you are interested! <br><br>As for fishing, the Columbia seems a little bleak right now. Most sturgeon are staging for the big smelt run most of us are expecting. They should show within the month. Better sturgeon fishing is on the way! The Sandy is polluted with steelhead and the bank anglers are doing better than the boat anglers! <br><br>The Clackamas is nothing to sneeze at either but the Sandy seems to have a few more fish than the Clack for a change! On the coast, most of the major rivers had great fishing over the holidays and the low, clear water conditions should keep things fairly productive. You may just have to go to more subtle presentations like bobbers and jigs. <br><br>Crabbing on Netarts Bay was less than impressive over the holiday but bigger estuaries like Tillamook or Nehalem should be picking up with the lack of fresh water influence the coast has been experiencing. The Siletz is getting a bonus run of early quality fish. <br><br>A good sign for the month of February and March! The Alsea is beginning to taper and the more central rivers like the Siuslaw and Umpqua are starting to gain momentum. <br><br><br><br><br>ODF&W has an unusual situation going on. Most Point-of-Sale locations are experiencing slow license processing. You may have difficulty getting your new license for a short while until the remedy the situation. Hunters and anglers seeking 2002 licenses and tags may obtain hand-written versions at larger ODFW offices, some of which will remain open until 9 p.m. ODFW Information Systems staff is working as quickly as possible to locate the source of the problem and fix it. <br><br>The licensing system will be effectively offline until the problems are resolved, though it may be functioning for short periods as testing occurs. Hunters and anglers must have an official 2002 license and appropriate tag to hunt or fish. Only select ODFW offices may issue hand-written documents. The following offices will be open until 9 p.m. weekdays to issue hand-written licenses should it be necessary: Portland headquarters, Clackamas, Corvallis, Roseburg, Bend and La Grande. Additional ODFW offices may issue hand-written licenses between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. They include: Central Point, Charleston, Enterprise, Gold Beach, Hines, John Day (morning only), Klamath Falls, Newport, Ontario, Pendleton, Salem, Sauvie Island, Springfield, Tillamook, and The Dalles. <br><br>Hunters and anglers who receive hand-written licenses or tags will be able to exchange them for printed versions at no charge from the same ODFW office once the Point-of-Sale computer system is functioning. In addition, hunters or anglers who purchased a hand-written hunting license or one-day fishing license on Dec. 31, but need a combination or annual fishing license may apply the cost to the purchase of the appropriate document. Such transactions may only be completed at an ODFW office. <br><br><br><br><br>Fishermen looking for an uncrowded day on the Sandy might want to consider fishing above Oxbow Park or below Dabney. The Sandy River Chapter of the Northwest Steelheaders are trying to get the word out about our annual Chapter fish-a-long, Frost Bite Follies, that will be taking place next Saturday, January 5th, on the Sandy River. <br><br>This from Ray Hinea - Past President of the chapter and Frost Bite Follies coordinator - <br><br>"We do our best to be respectful of everyone on the river, but the sight of "the fleet" can be overwhelming to some people. Also, as part of the event, participants will be assigned sections of the river for a litter clean-up project. We want everyone to know that our Chapter members are good stewards of the Sandy River and, along with enjoying a day of fishing, are committed to the enhancement of the river environment for everyone's enjoyment. In past litter cleanups, we have hauled out just about every type of garbage you can conceive of, including a living room couch!" <br><br>We apologize for any inconvenience we might cause fellow fishermen next Saturday, but we thought sending out this message might help people better plan their day." <br><br><br><br><br>Paid Subscriber John G. writes, "Hi Michael & Bob, Just wanted to drop you guys a note to say thank you for all you have done this year in putting together this great publication. Each Friday morning I look forward to reading your forecast and planning my weekend activities. Keep up the great work. ... one of my most productive years of fishing which in part I thank you for your tips, techniques, and guide know-how which you share with all your readers." <br><br>Thanks to all the Paid Subscribers who support TGF! They will receive a report this week of over 2,700 words with specific information about where to fish, when to fish and what to use, plus accurate predictions regarding the fishing next week and beyond, all for about 25 cents a week. <br><br>Subscribe now by clicking over to<br>http//www.theguidesforecast.com/giftcert.html <br><br><br><br>Get more Oregon fishing information at<br>http://www.theguidesforecast.com

Where are you at smokingjoe, did you drown or something ? LOL<br><br>

How did everyone do hunting this past season? I harvested 2 bears and 5 deer(2 with bow and 3 with muzzelloader) so I have my freezer filled. flagmanonice<br><br>

does anyone know of any good bass streams or creeks in Ky and where they can be found? thanks for the help.<br><br>kybasser<br>"The two best times to fish is when it's rainin' and when it ain't." ~Patrick F. McManus

CHECK LINES BEFORE FISHING IN THE COLD<br>by Bill Vanderford<br><br> The winds of winter have started in earnest and local lake temperatures are diving toward the freezing point. This annual phenomenon usually halts the appetites of smaller fish, but often increases the feeding urge in larger aquatic predators. Therefore, one should prepare for catching these bigger fish that become more aggressive in these cooler conditions. The first step toward winter angling success, however, should be replacement of old fishing lines, which are generally the weakest link in one’s terminal tackle.<br> Even the best-quality, premium fishing lines eventually wear out, so don’t risk losing a trophy fish by using old, worn-out, or questionable fishing line. Professional anglers check their lines before every tournament and change them whenever they begin to show signs of wear. Casual anglers would be safest to spool up with new line at least twice every fishing season. More frequent anglers should consider changing lines after every few fishing trips.<br> Some of the principal enemies of monofilament fishing line are UV degradation and damage from heat. Ultraviolet radiation can deteriorate the molecular structure of nylon monofilament fishing line, especially if it's exposed to sunlight over a long period of time. Overexposure to heat can also damage fishing line. As a general rule, never store rod or reels outdoors, in direct sunlight, or in the hot trunk of a car between fishing trips.<br> Rocks, sticks, hooks, fish scales, and spines can all cause microscopic nicks in the surface of the line, which can reduce its strength by fifty percent or more. Whenever there's a pause in the fishing action, after landing a fish, dragging the line over a rocks or stumps, or just a premonition that something might be wrong, most fishing pros check their line by running the first ten feet through their thumb and forefinger while pressing against the line with their thumbnail. If any roughness or irregularities are felt, the worn section is immediately cut off.<br> When line starts to break mysteriously, the reel and line guides should be checked for sharp spots or other problems that might be damaging the line. Sometimes the ceramic rings in line guides will crack or chip, leaving razor-sharp edges. Check for abrasive scratches and chips by running a piece of nylon stocking or a ball of cotton through the ring or across the surface. Any rough spots will instantly snag the fibers when they pass through.<br> Always store fishing reels and extra line in a cool, dark place like a cabinet or closet. Keep monofilament line away from continuous exposure to sunlight or excessive heat.<br> When changing fishing line, take extra precautions about disposing of the old line in a safe, responsible manner. Most fishing lines degrade so slowly that they create lethal traps for fish and wildlife if carelessly discarded in the wild. Also, never let any companions throw old fishing line overboard. Consider setting an example for children and friends by taking a few moments to gather up snarls of discarded fishing line that have been left by others.<br> With all the new second generation “super lines available, fishermen seem to be as to which brand to use when replacing old line. Stren has always produced a monofilament fishing line that combines flexible, easy-handling characteristics with improved abrasion resistance and overall toughness.<br> Regardless of which line is chosen, however, the important aspect to remember is that this tiny length is the weakest point between the angler and the fish. So, instead of having to relate the familiar story of “The One That Got Away”, now is the time to check those weak links before going out in the cold to do battle with a trophy fish!<br>Bill Vanderford has won numerous awards for his writing and photography, and has been inducted into the Freshwater Fishing Hall of Fame as a Legendary Guide. He can be reached at 770-962-1241, JFish51@aol.com, or at his web site: www.fishinglanier.com<br><br><br>Living to Fish and Fishing to Live<br>Bill Vanderford<br>www.fishinglanier.com<br>770-962-1241